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Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:35 am to SiloamHog
quote:If you think it's too expensive-- don't go to the hospital. If it's too expensive for you to pay, it's too expensive for all of us to pay too.
Enjoy paying your insurance premiums to support those others with the same Insurance company as you when they go to the hospital.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:35 am to Hopeful Doc
You in primary care?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:36 am to SiloamHog
quote:
We'd all pay it. Not just you. And then we, as Americans, would all have access to doctors, regardless of our financial situation
Just like we do today....
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:36 am to BoarEd
quote:I wish you the best of luck. Sincerely.
My beliefs on this issue are irrelevant and aren't going to change a goddamn thing.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:36 am to SiloamHog
quote:
would all have access to doctors
You do.
EMTALA
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:38 am to Apollyon
quote:One of hte best methods of fear-mongering. Hell, he's the perfect example. Thinks without government to save him he will die in the streets. Bought in to it hook-line-and-sinker. The hook is set in his anus he's swallowed the bait so hard.
Medicine is merely the canary in the socialist enslavement coalmine.
Now, he's a useful puppet.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:39 am to Hopeful Doc
On the topic of inhalers, (asthmatic here) they finally brought Primatine Mist back to OTC!
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:39 am to Philippines4LSU
quote:And Hayek. But it shouldn't be limited to those on the dole.
Every single person should have to read Ayn Rand and Adam Smith
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:39 am to Apollyon
quote:
Please understand why it is important to know what a "right" is, for this is the very definition of Americanism.
Let's just go ahead and get this out of the way before I hit the sack. I know the difference between a right and a privilege, man.
If I say that the Constitution mandates that the federal government provide for the general welfare of the populace, that doesn't mean I am saying people have the right to those things. I'm saying that the government was given that mandate. Further that they do a poor job of discharging that duty, but as you said, that's another thread entirely.
The Constitution also mandates that the federal government protect our nation's borders, but there is no inherent right that the people have due to that mandate set forth in the Constitution.
What you have presented with this "rights vs privilege" debate is a straw man.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:40 am to SiloamHog
I had a friend who lived many years in Ireland. Said there was a 6 month wait to see a dentist for a routine checkup.
There was no other option. You want to see a dentist? 6 months. You also didn't get to pick the dentist you saw.
There was no other option. You want to see a dentist? 6 months. You also didn't get to pick the dentist you saw.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:40 am to Taxing Authority
It's well meaning people that are the first to rationalize pushing the gun barrel against your head.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:41 am to SiloamHog
quote:
Keep waiving that flag as if you love America. You don't. If you honestly waived that flag, you'd love all Americans. You don't. You're okay with Americans dying because they can't afford your doctors. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves.
Keep importing millions of undocumented workers to increase supply of labor and work for less than minimum wage.
It’s not important that all those millions of people suppress the wages of all Americans, the lowest earners the most.
Sure, they increase supply of labor, decrease demand for labor and are willing to work for less than minimum wage, all of which artificially suppress wages.
They don’t pay taxes on their income since they’re undocumented, yet still receive medical care when needed despite not paying for it.
But hey, they vote for Democrats so it’s okay, right?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:41 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
One of hte best methods of fear-mongering. Hell, he's the perfect example. Thinks without government to save him he will die in the streets. Bought in to it hook-line-and-sinker. The hook is set in his anus he's swallowed the bait so hard.
He has a fantasy crisis fixed by a fantasy health care system that allows us to see the exact same doctor's we do today for $300/ mo and no copay.
He's an especially useful puppet because he is impervious to facts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:41 am to WorkinDawg
Just like we do today with a $20,000 price tag and a bankruptcy lawyers card
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:41 am to Apollyon
quote:
And the suits. You and I both know what the growth of bureaucracy has meant for this system we work in.
People advocating for more are insane.
No doubt. I thought it would be a little bit silly to complain about the extra beurocracy brought forth by the expansion or addition of a government healthcare system since I'm ragging the OP to produce any amount of evidence that costs to someone on a high-deductible plan wouldn't increase. But that said, frick every extra hoop they'll throw at us over whatever CMS thinks will be good next week.
If I didn't genuinely love what I did, I'd lobby my group to go with a real OK Surgery Center model. Here's the prices. They're online and on paper at the checkout window. You pay this. You can call your insurance company yourself and try to get out of them what they'll give you.
My office staff would be 1/3 of what it is. My headache would be 1/10 of what it is.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:43 am to SiloamHog
quote:GFY. Don't tell me what I do and don't love.
Keep waiving that flag as if you love America. You don't. If you honestly waived that flag, you'd love all Americans. You don't.
quote:Tired old strawman. No where did I say anyone should be deprived of anything. But if you aren't willing to generate what you're capable of doing yourself, why should others be given that burden? You've never even approached an answer to that question. And I doubt you will.
You're okay with Americans dying because they can't afford your doctors.
quote:Sure. They were all about collectivism!
The founding fathers are rolling in their graves.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:43 am to Apollyon
quote:
You in primary care?
Yes
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:43 am to BoarEd
Excellent post.
But wrong.
There is no federal "mandate" for provision of healthcare.
Also, citizens (me) provide your healthcare. It is my profession. And no, you have no free "right" to my labor.
I have no right to yours.
But wrong.
There is no federal "mandate" for provision of healthcare.
Also, citizens (me) provide your healthcare. It is my profession. And no, you have no free "right" to my labor.
I have no right to yours.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:43 am to Hopeful Doc
Anesthesia. Cheers mate!
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