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Why we gave up the lead
Posted on 2/8/20 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 2/8/20 at 5:40 pm
1:09 or so remaining and we are up 6. It’s a 2 possession game requiring them to make two 3’s to tie or 3 possession game with any other combination of baskets.
The shot clock is 30 seconds. That means, we should be able to burn 45-60 seconds in 2 possessions. If we score a basket on any of those possessions, the game is pretty much over unless they start the foul game.
Unfortunately, we had 3 extremely fast possessions in the last minute where we attempted a shot within 10 seconds of the clock twice and got fouled once quickly as we tried to break the press on the 3rd.
If we simply calm down and not try to move so quickly, we win the game. I can’t understand for the life of me why during the course of 39 minutes our offense is slow moving and methodical, yet in the last minutes of the game we get anxious to score and speed things up resulting in WAYYY TOO MANY additional possessions for the opponent.
That’s on Coach Wade to fix regardless of the other team going berserk from 3 in the last minute. And I didn’t even touch on 3pt defense. That was ridiculous too
The shot clock is 30 seconds. That means, we should be able to burn 45-60 seconds in 2 possessions. If we score a basket on any of those possessions, the game is pretty much over unless they start the foul game.
Unfortunately, we had 3 extremely fast possessions in the last minute where we attempted a shot within 10 seconds of the clock twice and got fouled once quickly as we tried to break the press on the 3rd.
If we simply calm down and not try to move so quickly, we win the game. I can’t understand for the life of me why during the course of 39 minutes our offense is slow moving and methodical, yet in the last minutes of the game we get anxious to score and speed things up resulting in WAYYY TOO MANY additional possessions for the opponent.
That’s on Coach Wade to fix regardless of the other team going berserk from 3 in the last minute. And I didn’t even touch on 3pt defense. That was ridiculous too
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 5:41 pm
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 5:45 pm to gotiger
Yeah I was screaming wtf are y’all not running clock for
Makes no sense. Time off the clock is better than scoring quick
Makes no sense. Time off the clock is better than scoring quick
Posted on 2/8/20 at 5:48 pm to Pelican fan99
That’s why we are a dumb team!!!
Posted on 2/8/20 at 5:49 pm to gotiger
We didn't just give up the lead they started making the shots they were getting all game.
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 2/8/20 at 5:49 pm to gotiger
We also shot some really dumb 3s late in regulation.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 5:52 pm to gotiger
well to break the press you are going to have to move pretty quick and either put a move on a guy, get a screen, or get open and thats pretty herky jerky. After they get past halfcourt is when they need to regather. Unless it's a wide open layup you take clock off there
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:07 pm to treysnaves
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well to break the press you are going to have to move pretty quick and either put a move on a guy, get a screen, or get open and thats pretty herky jerky. After they get past halfcourt is when they need to regather. Unless it's a wide open layup you take clock off there
You would think this is elementary at this level, but apparently WW needs to coach them every step of the way a bit more
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:09 pm to gotiger
Many times the last 2 years we have a lead and are having a bad day shooting 3's and we fire up a 3 early in the clock (miss) instead of working it inside and the opponent gets back in it Is this how we lost the lead ?
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:13 pm to gotiger
Auburn was fouling and pressing at the 1:06 mark...
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:17 pm to Golfer
Yep ... even the announcers were questioning why AU was fouling so early.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:20 pm to Golfer
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Auburn was fouling and pressing at the 1:06 mark...
Pressing yes, fouling no. They fouled only twice in the final minute. One was on accident when Skylar got bailed out. Otherwise we didn’t play as we should have.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:27 pm to gotiger
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Pressing yes, fouling no. They fouled only twice in the final minute. One was on accident when Skylar got bailed out. Otherwise we didn’t play as we should have.
I was listening to Blair at that point but both possessions LSU had after the final 1:06, Auburn traded 3 for 2 via foul...
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:27 pm to gotiger
To me it was the combination of a bunch of factors that continue to plague this team at times during the game and particularly down the stretch of most of these games.
Failing to recognize what’s working for the other team to get back into games is a biggie. And neither the players nor the coaches are doing anything to correct it. For example, when a guy shoots his third 3-pointer a priority should be put to not allow him to get off another one uncontested, yet we’ve had two players in the last two games hit 7. Here’s Unacceptable.
Here’s another one. Florida, Vanderbilt and now Auburn have all employed a late game tactic incorporating a high pick and roll play where Emmitt Williams gets caught guarding a shooter and that defense has led to Florida coming back from 9 points down with less than a minute, an unstoppable run by vandy to beat us and another one today with auburn. If you can’t step out and trap or hedge the ball carrier and keep him from shooting uncontested threes on three straight trips then I don’t know what will wade is thinking. But it’s costing us ballgames and making us sweat the ones we’re fortunate enough to hang on to win.
And lastly, maybe Will needs to rethink his philosophy on timeouts. It would have been nice at the 1:25 mark to tell the team to not give up any open threes and to step out on picks and trap. If we had just traded 2-point buckets for free throws we’d be talking about a win and getting back on track instead of a second loss and the still lingering issue of piss poor defense.
Failing to recognize what’s working for the other team to get back into games is a biggie. And neither the players nor the coaches are doing anything to correct it. For example, when a guy shoots his third 3-pointer a priority should be put to not allow him to get off another one uncontested, yet we’ve had two players in the last two games hit 7. Here’s Unacceptable.
Here’s another one. Florida, Vanderbilt and now Auburn have all employed a late game tactic incorporating a high pick and roll play where Emmitt Williams gets caught guarding a shooter and that defense has led to Florida coming back from 9 points down with less than a minute, an unstoppable run by vandy to beat us and another one today with auburn. If you can’t step out and trap or hedge the ball carrier and keep him from shooting uncontested threes on three straight trips then I don’t know what will wade is thinking. But it’s costing us ballgames and making us sweat the ones we’re fortunate enough to hang on to win.
And lastly, maybe Will needs to rethink his philosophy on timeouts. It would have been nice at the 1:25 mark to tell the team to not give up any open threes and to step out on picks and trap. If we had just traded 2-point buckets for free throws we’d be talking about a win and getting back on track instead of a second loss and the still lingering issue of piss poor defense.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:28 pm to gotiger
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The shot clock is 30 seconds. That means, we should be able to burn 45-60 seconds in 2 possessions. If we score a basket on any of those possessions, the game is pretty much over unless they start the foul game.
You can’t burn clock if they foul,
Six point lead with 1:02 left
Auburn makes a 3 at :57 left UP 3
Auburn fouls Mays at :52 left Mays makes both Up 5
Auburn makes another 3, :47 left UP 2
Auburn fouls Smart at :43 he misses FT
Auburn missed with :36 left
Mays rebounds, loses ball :25 left still UP 2
Auburn ties game with :19 seconds left
Mays misses 3 OT
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:39 pm to gotiger
They fouled as soon as they could so we could not run off time. And, they made every three they threw up. Swapping one or two points for 3 is never a good game plan to win a game.
We scored 90 each of the last two games and lost
We scored 90 each of the last two games and lost
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 2/8/20 at 6:55 pm to Fightin Okra
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They fouled as soon as they could so we could not run off time. And, they made every three they threw up. Swapping one or two points for 3 is never a good game plan to win a game.
And we should have been fouling them so the most they could get is 2 (and they weren't shooting free throws well for the game). We would have won. They just let them keeping shooting 3s though and we lost.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:04 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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And we should have been fouling them so the most they could get is 2 (and they weren't shooting free throws well for the game). We would have won. They just let them keeping shooting 3s though and we lost.
We had four possessions in the last minute
Mays made 3 FTs
Smart missed front end of 1-1
Mays lost the ball
Mays missed a long 3
One good possession out of four, that’s a losing formula.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:05 pm to Number 9 Fan
It would have helped too if we wouldn’t have let auburn take the ball out from the end line and let the ball roll to near half court before the clock started. We couldn’t even recognize that. It’s the little things that add up to a win or a loss.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:12 pm to Rjlebla
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It would have helped too if we wouldn’t have let auburn take the ball out from the end line and let the ball roll to near half court before the clock started. We couldn’t even recognize that. It’s the little things that add up to a win or a loss.
I was just thinking the same thing. Why not put up token pressure?
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:16 pm to gotiger
It becomes mathematical and a game of beating the percentage odds. Why did we not work with the ODDS we had?
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