re: ESPN article on Bengals front office

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It’s crazy how some of these people forget what the Saints were and how their owner was regarded

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Where has someone held up the Saints as a model organization

If you mean because they got an elite QB, Brees was a veteran pro bowler already. There were other circumstances post Katrina that helped them improve the organization, namely improvements to the dome and other concessions from the state.

ETA: The Saints original owner is great example of what people are talking about with Mike Brown. He was a moron that was cheap and didn't care about winning. When Tom Benson bought the team, he hired an established GM in Jim Finks and no coincidentally they had their first winning season and some pretty good teams in the late 80's and early 90's. Of course they never won a playoff game, some of that is bad luck, maybe Mora was just a so so coach, but it was a different world, in the pre cap days they Saints had one of the higher payrolls.

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"We are not trying to get better by losing our best players," Tobin said. "In our opinion, that's not the path forward. Lose your best players, how do you get better by doing that?"

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Because every player, no matter how good they are, has a value attached to them. There comes a point in pretty much every player's career in which his price tag exceeds his value. As a GM, you are in violation of your duty to improve the team when you continue to pay these players with no regard for their value.

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Their owner once gave his family members Rolexs as gifts...that were fake.

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You are a fricking retard if you believe this.

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He's the NFL version of Donald sterling

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