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re: We need Kevin Mawae at LSU
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:33 pm to LSU82BILL
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:33 pm to LSU82BILL
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You do realize that people here are advocating for Kevin Mawae to train and develop offensive lineman on technique
Only coaches can work directly with players, Analysts can not. We already have an OL coach, once a PGC is hired there isn't an offensive coaching position left on staff for Mawae to fill.
It would be possible for Mawae to enroll in graduate school at LSU, and become a graduate assistant coach. Then he could directly work with players.
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:39 pm to MNOCEO
No. You don’t run the program as a good ole boy network. You run it to win. You pick the best guys with zero regard for where they went to college.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:49 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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He will be here soon. He's a tiger
We already have an o-line coach that O hand-selected. He isn't getting rid of Cregg.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:49 pm to LSU82BILL
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So a guy that caught 3 passes in his entire career at William & Mary whose only experience as a position coach is 3 years coaching LB's at W&M and 1 year coaching WR's at LSU can land a job as an NFL offensive coordinator but a 16-year NFL veteran, 8-time Pro Bowl, HOF center isn't qualified in your eyes to recruit and coach offensive lineman at his alma mater?
You don’t seem to realize that the facts above argue against Mawae, not for him. The point is that how good a player is does not matter in coaching. Playing well is mostly due to physical talent. Coaching is cerebral and inspirational.
The larger point is, Orgeron should count LSU allegiance and history as a big fat zero. Hire the best people regardless of their...
Shoe size
Height
Religious affiliation
And College affiliation!
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:58 pm to LSU82BILL
You also failed to mention his work as a graduate assistant coach under Joe Moorhead.
Just to pick your brain a little. I've a question for you. If LSU had an opening for an OL coach which candidate would you hire? Kevin Mawae or Andrew Whitworth? One is a HOFamer, the other will be one. Most HS OL would recognize/relate to Whitworth since he's played more recently. So again which one would you hire, seeing that neither have any coaching experience, only that they both played OL at LSU.
Just to pick your brain a little. I've a question for you. If LSU had an opening for an OL coach which candidate would you hire? Kevin Mawae or Andrew Whitworth? One is a HOFamer, the other will be one. Most HS OL would recognize/relate to Whitworth since he's played more recently. So again which one would you hire, seeing that neither have any coaching experience, only that they both played OL at LSU.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:48 pm to CBP3110
I'm not saying our OL played badly or the o line coach didn't do a great job but ALOT of huge plays the O line broke down, and Burrow made chicken salad out of chicken shite. Mawae played 16 years at C(the most cerebral of of o line positions) at the highest level, 8 pro bowls, 2 all pro's, multiple years as NFLPU president....and is a tiger through and through, if you don't think that guy would be a positive addition who the hell would be
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:01 pm to SS21
Compared to 2018, the 2019 OL played lights out better. Burrow had time to make those deep crossing routes, in 2018 it was less of a spread and more about protecting Joe from being killed.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:41 pm to boudinman
Not true. Munoz was an analyst and worked directly with Burrow.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:55 pm to MNOCEO
Been needing Mawae. An excellent LSU rep
Posted on 1/30/20 at 12:45 am to PenguinPubes
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I still don’t understand why he isn’t on our staff
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If I’m a retired HOF player who’s now a coach, I’m choosing Tempe over my alma mater.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 6:54 am to SS21
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Mawae played 16 years at C(the most cerebral of of o line positions) at the highest level, 8 pro bowls, 2 all pro's, multiple years as NFLPU president.
And is a Hall of Famer. How many guys with that resume get into college coaching? College coaching—especially assistants—is a fricking grind. Office at 6 a.m., home at 10 p.m. and that’s when they’re actually at home and not on the road driving a rental car in BFE to go kiss some snot nose 16-year-olds’ arse in the hopes, he might come play for you in a couple of years.
It seems to me, most long-tenured NFL guys play that long so they WON’T have to do that. Forget even Hall of Famers, how many guys who played 10+ years in the NFL (recently, when the money has been great) are college assistant coaches? Are there even any? I love Mawae, think he’d probably make a great Oline coach, and could probably recruit if you put someone in front of him. But he seems like a family man, and I just can’t imagine him wanting to put in the ridiculous hours college assistants have to. Why would he?
Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:00 am to Hot Carl
Just because someone is good at a task does not mean that they are a good teacher of that task
Kevin may be great at it. I don't know.
The mistake many people make is that talent= teaching.
Kevin may be great at it. I don't know.
The mistake many people make is that talent= teaching.
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 7:01 am
Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:02 am to Hot Carl
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Why would he?
Love of the game
Love of the locker room and being with the guys
When guys retire, they don't miss the workouts or two a days or even the games. They miss the locker room and the brotherhood that comes with team.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:00 am to Penrod
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You don’t seem to realize that the facts above argue against Mawae, not for him. The point is that how good a player is does not matter in coaching. Playing well is mostly due to physical talent. Coaching is cerebral and inspirational.
Ah,....I guess it would have helped if Mawae had played center at some point in his NFL career and had been responsible for recognizing defensive fronts and making pre-snap line call adjustments and been any good at it instead of just relying on his physical talent, huh?
Posted on 1/30/20 at 8:17 am to GeauxLSU1971
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Munoz was an analyst and worked directly with Burrow.
You wrong again baw.
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These staff members do not count against N.C.A.A. bylaws restricting Football Bowl Subdivision teams to nine assistant coaches, a figure that will rise by one next year. And they must abide by rules barring them from activities only coaches may perform, including coaching athletes, actively coaching during games or practices, and recruiting off campus.
He may have advised Coach Ensminger and Brady as what Burrow needed to learn or do, but actively coach him one one one is not permitted.
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 8:23 am
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:40 am to Hot Carl
Ask him why he applied for the job, and teared up when thanking miles for the opportunity...guess you know more about him than he does
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:09 am to MNOCEO
Attitudes like yours are what frick up a great program. Having attended LSU means ZERO! Loving LSU means ZERO! What matters exclusively is what impact he would have on the program. In the hiring manager's opinion, whoever would have the most positive impact on the program should be hired. That's it, and there isn't any more.
Bama went through this, and it caused them to go through a dark period for their program. They became so chauvinistic that a large element was always wanting a "Bear Man" as coach. And that caused them to hire a bunch of dopes. The two men who gave them sustained success had nothing to do with their in-bred program.
Bama went through this, and it caused them to go through a dark period for their program. They became so chauvinistic that a large element was always wanting a "Bear Man" as coach. And that caused them to hire a bunch of dopes. The two men who gave them sustained success had nothing to do with their in-bred program.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:23 am to LSU82BILL
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So a guy that caught 3 passes in his entire career at William & Mary whose only experience as a position coach is 3 years coaching LB's at W&M and 1 year coaching WR's at LSU can land a job as an NFL offensive coordinator but a 16-year NFL veteran, 8-time Pro Bowl, HOF center isn't qualified in your eyes to recruit and coach offensive lineman at his alma mater? You're a special kind of stupid.
No man, it's you who are stupid. The point is that playing and coaching are two different things. Nick Saban, Urban Meyer and Dabo Sweeney are the top coaches in the last decade of college ball. Were any of the Pro Bowlers? Being a great football player has ZERO import in the decision to hire a coach. The only factor is: will he make a great coach? The example you gave, of Joe Brady, proves the other guy's point, not yours. Being a great player is not a requisite for being a great coach.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:34 am to Penrod
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Being a great player is not a requisite for being a great coach.
Yes and no. Good centers and especially someone who is one of the greatest centers of all time function as on field coaches. They make the line calls and recognize blitzes. Mawae was great, not just because of physical talent, but technique.
I wouldn't consider him for OL coach right away, but if you have an analyst spot he's certainly worth consideration. He's also a very charismatic guy who has the credibility as a HOF'er and personality to be an elite recruiter.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:36 am to boudinman
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but actively coach him one one one is not permitted.
That might be the worst followed rule in CFB. I can promise you that Munoz and Burrow spent a ton of time together. If Mike Locksley stood on the sidelines with a headset and coached QB while he was an "analyst" at Bama, I have no doubts LSU and every other team has their guys work with the players out of the public eye.
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