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re: Marcel Brooks' Position
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:14 pm to Ripley
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:14 pm to Ripley
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Seeing as we likely go to a 4-3 w/ a new DC
would we switch to 4-3 with no pure 4-3 defensive ends? Farrell and Logan are DTs, and do we really want Andre Anthony and Ray Thornton on the field that much?
seems like many of the recruits, along the D Line particularly, we've signed fit the 3-4/3-3-5 mold of Aranda.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:22 pm to cjmeatballs
We have Anthony, Thornton, Parker, Logan, Farrell, Ojulari, Webb For DE. Brooks would be perfect playing OLB in a 4-3.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:03 pm to cjmeatballs
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would we switch to 4-3 with no pure 4-3 defensive ends? Farrell and Logan are DTs, and do we really want Andre Anthony and Ray Thornton on the field that much?
you'll have to bite the bullet up front to get to 4-3.
besides, 2011 defense was built with pretty slinder DE's in Mingo and Montgomery. As long as they can get off blocks its not a big deal.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:37 pm to cjmeatballs
Do Ali Gaye or McClendon project as 4-3 rush ends? I guess we could throw Soni Fonua in that group too.
I do agree that we will need to be creative in a 4-3 with out a classic pash rushing end.
I do agree that we will need to be creative in a 4-3 with out a classic pash rushing end.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:03 pm to cjmeatballs
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would we switch to 4-3 with no pure 4-3 defensive ends? Farrell and Logan are DTs, and do we really want Andre Anthony and Ray Thornton on the field that much?
I don’t see us eliminating the nose tackle position next year anyway with Shelvin and Ika both being too good to keep on the sideline.
How often are teams in a 7-man front base defense anyway? Typically there’s 5 DBs on the field, and/or 4 DBs and that LB/Safety hybrid position Stevens played this year.
If you’re the DC, Do you just play Shelvin and Ika as traditional 4-3 DTs? Are they on the field at the same time? Do you rotate them at one spot and rotate Logan and Farrel at the other? Or are Logan and Farrel your starting DEs?
Seems the difference between a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 OLB is about 10-15 pounds. Do our returning DEs from this past year try to slim down to 270-275 or do they maintain their weight or even add some to move inside? If the latter, who are the DEs?
I’ve been seeing a lot of talk on here about moving to a 4-3 since the Aranda news, but I have a hard time envisioning that happening by next season. It would seem we’d need a year or two to recruit some guys or bring in a few grad transfers to better fit that scheme.
I could easily be wrong, but it’s just hard for me to see it happening by next year. The guys on the defensive front were brought in to fit Aranda’s scheme, and I can’t see the coaches risking losing games just to force a philosophical change into a narrow timeframe.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:56 am to cjmeatballs
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would we switch to 4-3 with no pure 4-3 defensive ends? Farrell and Logan are DTs
I disagree on Farrell. He is very athletic and fast. If Thomas comes back he is another. Then we have Cherry, Fonua, and Gaye.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 9:35 am to cjmeatballs
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would we switch to 4-3 with no pure 4-3 defensive ends?
Farrell, Logan & Thomas gained weight to play 3-4 end. They could lose it & go to 4-3 if they wanted.
Regardless, the argument about base defense is not that important, as it is played much much less than ones with 5 & 6 DBs
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