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re: HOW IN THE frick DOES THIS HAPPEN??
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:49 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:49 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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Pretty simple:
Hated ref Bill Vinovich (Saints-Rams missed PI) is apparently officiating the Super Bowl.
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:18 pm to VADawg
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2. "The NFL wanted to make sure LA got a team in the Super Bowl."
Well......it’s true
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:19 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:35 am to VADawg
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Roger Goodell hates Sean Payton
It's really just that God hates the saints, too.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:32 am to ProfFrink
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The official who missed the call was demoted from his crew which is Tier I and is on a tier III crew this year.
Was that the former Rams player?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:29 am to Roll Tide Ravens
quote:still doesn't mean he can call PI on that.. or should even be looking in that area..
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he was not the official covering the play.. as the white hat his sole responsibility on that play-once the pass was thrown - was the QB - nothing else. He can't call what he didn't see - if he was looking downfield watching the receiver and DB - he would not have been doing his job and would not be in the super bowl.
Right, I mean he was the head of that ref crew.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:41 am to tigerpimpbot
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Was that the former Rams player?
No. There were no former Rams players officiating the game. There was a former Rans player that called on the crew earlier in the year but was not a regular member.
Pat Turner is in a different crew this year. Looking at his crews games it appears to be Tier III.
Tier I get high profile games. Tier II the ones below. Tier III usually get the weaker games. Playoff goes by tiers and ratings. Tier I will get playoff games over the others.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:45 am to choupiquesushi
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he was not the official covering the play.. as the white hat his sole responsibility on that play-once the pass was thrown - was the QB - nothing else. He can't call what he didn't see - if he was looking downfield watching the receiver and DB - he would not have been doing his job and would not be in the super bowl.
the 2 names that should live in Saints fan hatred forever are Patrick Turner & Gary Cavaletto
those were the 2 who missed the PI in that game
Vinovich gets the hate b/c he's the white hat and thus the crew chief, even though that area of the field is nowhere near his domain
neither Turner nor Cavaletto, to my knowledge, worked any postseason games this year
Cavaletto, however, was on Vinovich's regular season crew for this season
ETA: Turner was the 1 who had a thought about throwing the flag, but backed off... Cavaletto was the one who ran in demonstrably waving incomplete, which may have affected Turner's thought process about throwing his flag
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 10:49 am
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:49 am to rt3
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neither Turner nor Cavaletto, to my knowledge, worked any postseason games this year Cavaletto, however, was on Vinovich's regular season crew for this season
Correct. They were demoted in their ranking.
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Vinovich gets the hate b/c he's the white hat and thus the crew chief, even though that area of the field is nowhere near his domain
Also correct. Those saying he should have overturned the no call don’t understand officiating mechanics. At no point should he be looking downfield. The only way you should overturn a call is if you have a clear view on the play, which he did not have and should not have been looking at anyway
Lots of misinformation about that crew and officiating in general
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:46 am to choupiquesushi
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still doesn't mean he can call PI on that.. or should even be looking in that area..
I get that, I’m just saying he’s hated, and that was one of the catalysts for the hatred of him.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:52 am to TechDawg2007
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BECAUSE TD WON'T ALLOW YOU TO CAPITALIZE THE WORD frick IN THE SUBJECT LINE
This post was edited on 1/15
and td guidelines say not to capitalize subject ever.
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