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re: Bernie and warren: “K-12 is already free, why not college”
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:42 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
quote:yeah that’s nonsense. Everyone going to college for useless degrees does nothing to help improve society
Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:46 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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why shouldn't education be free - especially since most white collar jobs require a 4-year degree?
Most only require a four year degree because so many people have a four year degree. It’s a diluted market. Making it more diluted isn’t going to help.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:47 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
Making college free wouldn’t expand the amount of people who would attend college.
America has a higher degree rate than most European nations
We give ample loans to kids who come from poor families
There is not a student in America who can’t attend college because of cost
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:06 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
How have college students--simply by having gone to college--improved the population and made us a healthier society?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:11 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
Uh no, the shite being taught today benefits society very little. frickers need to be taught how to use a hammer and saw
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:22 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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Sanders has a lot of crazy ideas, but this isn't one of them.
Not crazy, just stupid and it appeals to morons.
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Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
More educated? How does greeting a degree in sociology make one better educated? You, like so many, don't know what education is and diploma mills for peons able to retain enough information to dump it out on a test doesn't produce an educated populace.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:58 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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Devil's Advocate: why shouldn't education be free - especially since most white collar jobs require a 4-year degree?
Not sure where you get that idea but most white collar jobs do not require a 4 year degree.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:24 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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Sanders has a lot of crazy ideas, but this isn't one of them. Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
Higher attainment =\= more educated. Not any more.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:53 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
So how much of your paycheck are you already donating to help people with their healthcare and education?
Or are you one of those people that is only "charitable" when the government forcibly takes your or someone else's money?
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:03 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
quote:Its not. We (well some of us) pay isht ton in taxes for it.
why shouldn't education be free
quote:If it valuable... why should it be free? Should golf be “free”. That isht is valuable isn’t it?
especially since most white collar jobs require a 4-year degree?
The idea that valuable, scarce and necessary things should be free is completely backwards.
quote:If this were the case people would pay for it willingly — not only at the end of a gun.
Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 7:53 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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Sanders has a lot of crazy ideas, but this isn't one of them. Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
Going to school and having fun for a couple years before dropping out OR a degree in some useless shite doesn’t make a person educated. How about they push people that aren’t good at school into trade schools? Can’t order your plumbing, electrical work, etc. from amazon.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:00 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
quote:Most of a college education is information learned. To that degree, it can and therefore should be free since information can flow freely without someone else’s service. As far as hands-on, tangible elements of a college education...that requires someone else’s service and therefore isn’t free.
Devil's Advocate: why shouldn't education be free - especially since most white collar jobs require a 4-year degree? Is it just because you paid for higher 3ducation, so you think it's unfair that others may not?
Haven’t read the thread yet but i imagine someone is making the point that if college is free then a college education means nothing.
If that’s the case, then free college would be the best thing to happen to this country in years.
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