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Car Advice - Catalytic Converter on Honda
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:08 pm
Figured I would get some car advice from members on the forum. Sadly there isn't any type of car forum so I decided to post it here.
I have a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder 190 hp 2011 Accord EX-L. I'm the original owner and the vehicle has 158,000. Vehicle has been spectacular up to this point, never any major issues besides the occasional battery going dead.
Always on top of oil changes and fluid changes. Coolant was changed at 100,000 miles as recommended. Valves were adjusted last year with a new valve cover gasket. Serpentine belt was replaced 2 years ago. Essentially I've always been on top of getting maintenance done.
I noticed on Friday that my engine performance seemed down (I know my car very well and could just feel that something wasn't right). Last night while driving my check engine light comes on for the first time ever.
I go to Advance Auto Parts today and they pull the code. P0420 was the code. After looking it up it indicates an issue with the Catalytic Converter. I'm guessing the Catalytic Converter has gone bad and will need to be replaced.
Of course we all know this is a bad repair. Probably looking at $1500-$2000 and after a medical issue late last year causing me to miss a few weeks of work I honestly don't have that type of money to spend.
So I wanted to ask you all this, lets assume for this scenario I don't care about polluting the environment (I do but maybe not at $2000). My state doesn't do emissions testing so I don't have to worry about it failing that. Besides the environmental issues would this cause me to destroy my engine? Again I will say I notice decreased engine performance and not as much responsiveness in acceleration (both tell tale signs of the converter) but it still drives smooth. Is there a reason to replace it soon besides environmental reasons? Will a bad converter eventually hurt my engine and cause even more expensive repairs?
I have a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder 190 hp 2011 Accord EX-L. I'm the original owner and the vehicle has 158,000. Vehicle has been spectacular up to this point, never any major issues besides the occasional battery going dead.
Always on top of oil changes and fluid changes. Coolant was changed at 100,000 miles as recommended. Valves were adjusted last year with a new valve cover gasket. Serpentine belt was replaced 2 years ago. Essentially I've always been on top of getting maintenance done.
I noticed on Friday that my engine performance seemed down (I know my car very well and could just feel that something wasn't right). Last night while driving my check engine light comes on for the first time ever.
I go to Advance Auto Parts today and they pull the code. P0420 was the code. After looking it up it indicates an issue with the Catalytic Converter. I'm guessing the Catalytic Converter has gone bad and will need to be replaced.
Of course we all know this is a bad repair. Probably looking at $1500-$2000 and after a medical issue late last year causing me to miss a few weeks of work I honestly don't have that type of money to spend.
So I wanted to ask you all this, lets assume for this scenario I don't care about polluting the environment (I do but maybe not at $2000). My state doesn't do emissions testing so I don't have to worry about it failing that. Besides the environmental issues would this cause me to destroy my engine? Again I will say I notice decreased engine performance and not as much responsiveness in acceleration (both tell tale signs of the converter) but it still drives smooth. Is there a reason to replace it soon besides environmental reasons? Will a bad converter eventually hurt my engine and cause even more expensive repairs?
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:11 pm to CoastalTiger83
The CC warranty is usually 10 years or more.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:12 pm to CoastalTiger83
Wish I had a Cadillac converter.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:14 pm to CoastalTiger83
Could also be the O2 sensors are bad
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:16 pm to Jackie Chan
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Could also be the O2 sensors are bad
But would this also cause decreased engine performance? I definitely feel like the engine doesn't have as much pep as it did just a few days ago. The vehicle also isn't accelerating as quick either.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:16 pm to CoastalTiger83
Unless you have a backpressure gauge or visual inspection, I wouldn't automatically assume the converter is bad. The O2 sensors go bad more often, they drift out of calibration and become slower to respond. For a primary O2 sensor this can become a performance issue, for a secondary it could throw that code.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:16 pm to CoastalTiger83
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Probably looking at $1500-$2000
An aftermarket catalytic converter is around $150 plus installation. $250ish at a muffler shop
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:18 pm to CoastalTiger83
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Of course we all know this is a bad repair. Probably looking at $1500-$2000 and after a medical issue late last year causing me to miss a few weeks of work I honestly don't have that type of money to spend.
I only give help to those in the upper class.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:19 pm to weadjust
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An aftermarket catalytic converter is around $150 plus installation. $250ish at a muffler shop
Worse case scenario this is probably the route I'll go. I take my vehicle to an import shop and they've always done a good job and are usually half of what any stealership would charge for the same service.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:20 pm to CoastalTiger83
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I go to Advance Auto Parts today and they pull the code. P0420 was the code. After looking it up it indicates an issue with the Catalytic Converter. I'm guessing the Catalytic Converter has gone bad and will need to be replaced.
Check your coil pack first.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:22 pm to CoastalTiger83
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I take my vehicle to an import shop
Muffler shop would be cheaper than the import shop. Get a Walker brand or similar aftermarket converter.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:28 pm to CoastalTiger83
I would take it off and bang it out then put it back on.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:33 pm to CoastalTiger83
Check O2 sensor first. A bad O2 will sometimes trigger a code for a bad cat. The O2 in that 2.4 K engine often wears out at that mileage. Much cheaper repair than replacing the cat converter.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:36 pm to CoastalTiger83
Do yourself a favor and buy a BlueDriver OBD2 Bluetooth scanner off Amazon. It will give you far more info than you’ll get from places like Advanced Auto allowing you to more accurately judge which part is at fault. I’d bet it’s your sensors not the cat.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:37 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
02 sensors went out. I paid 1400. I wish i had known the muffler shop.
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:38 pm to CoastalTiger83
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But would this also cause decreased engine performance?
Yes. If the O2 sensor is bad, it can disrupt the air-to-fuel ratio, timing etc, because it is sending faulty information to the ecu.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 4:28 pm to CoastalTiger83
That code isn’t always the catalytic converter. Have it diagnosed at a reputable shop. It’d suck to spend that much a new converter and it be something else.
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