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Car Advice - Catalytic Converter on Honda

Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted by CoastalTiger83
Member since Dec 2019
77 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:08 pm
Figured I would get some car advice from members on the forum. Sadly there isn't any type of car forum so I decided to post it here.

I have a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder 190 hp 2011 Accord EX-L. I'm the original owner and the vehicle has 158,000. Vehicle has been spectacular up to this point, never any major issues besides the occasional battery going dead.

Always on top of oil changes and fluid changes. Coolant was changed at 100,000 miles as recommended. Valves were adjusted last year with a new valve cover gasket. Serpentine belt was replaced 2 years ago. Essentially I've always been on top of getting maintenance done.

I noticed on Friday that my engine performance seemed down (I know my car very well and could just feel that something wasn't right). Last night while driving my check engine light comes on for the first time ever.

I go to Advance Auto Parts today and they pull the code. P0420 was the code. After looking it up it indicates an issue with the Catalytic Converter. I'm guessing the Catalytic Converter has gone bad and will need to be replaced.

Of course we all know this is a bad repair. Probably looking at $1500-$2000 and after a medical issue late last year causing me to miss a few weeks of work I honestly don't have that type of money to spend.

So I wanted to ask you all this, lets assume for this scenario I don't care about polluting the environment (I do but maybe not at $2000). My state doesn't do emissions testing so I don't have to worry about it failing that. Besides the environmental issues would this cause me to destroy my engine? Again I will say I notice decreased engine performance and not as much responsiveness in acceleration (both tell tale signs of the converter) but it still drives smooth. Is there a reason to replace it soon besides environmental reasons? Will a bad converter eventually hurt my engine and cause even more expensive repairs?
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60346 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:11 pm to
The CC warranty is usually 10 years or more.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49161 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:12 pm to
Wish I had a Cadillac converter.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33507 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:12 pm to
Check this out.

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Posted by Jackie Chan
Japan?
Member since Sep 2012
4844 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:14 pm to
Could also be the O2 sensors are bad
Posted by CoastalTiger83
Member since Dec 2019
77 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Could also be the O2 sensors are bad


But would this also cause decreased engine performance? I definitely feel like the engine doesn't have as much pep as it did just a few days ago. The vehicle also isn't accelerating as quick either.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18883 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:16 pm to
Unless you have a backpressure gauge or visual inspection, I wouldn't automatically assume the converter is bad. The O2 sensors go bad more often, they drift out of calibration and become slower to respond. For a primary O2 sensor this can become a performance issue, for a secondary it could throw that code.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15649 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Probably looking at $1500-$2000


An aftermarket catalytic converter is around $150 plus installation. $250ish at a muffler shop
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68576 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Of course we all know this is a bad repair. Probably looking at $1500-$2000 and after a medical issue late last year causing me to miss a few weeks of work I honestly don't have that type of money to spend.


I only give help to those in the upper class.
Posted by CoastalTiger83
Member since Dec 2019
77 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

An aftermarket catalytic converter is around $150 plus installation. $250ish at a muffler shop


Worse case scenario this is probably the route I'll go. I take my vehicle to an import shop and they've always done a good job and are usually half of what any stealership would charge for the same service.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 3:20 pm
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:20 pm to
quote:


I go to Advance Auto Parts today and they pull the code. P0420 was the code. After looking it up it indicates an issue with the Catalytic Converter. I'm guessing the Catalytic Converter has gone bad and will need to be replaced.



Check your coil pack first.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15649 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

I take my vehicle to an import shop


Muffler shop would be cheaper than the import shop. Get a Walker brand or similar aftermarket converter.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73192 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:28 pm to
I would take it off and bang it out then put it back on.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
13688 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:33 pm to
Check O2 sensor first. A bad O2 will sometimes trigger a code for a bad cat. The O2 in that 2.4 K engine often wears out at that mileage. Much cheaper repair than replacing the cat converter.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:36 pm to
Do yourself a favor and buy a BlueDriver OBD2 Bluetooth scanner off Amazon. It will give you far more info than you’ll get from places like Advanced Auto allowing you to more accurately judge which part is at fault. I’d bet it’s your sensors not the cat.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Nono
Member since Nov 2017
4820 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:37 pm to
02 sensors went out. I paid 1400. I wish i had known the muffler shop.

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Posted by Jackie Chan
Japan?
Member since Sep 2012
4844 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:38 pm to
quote:


But would this also cause decreased engine performance? 


Yes. If the O2 sensor is bad, it can disrupt the air-to-fuel ratio, timing etc, because it is sending faulty information to the ecu.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 4:28 pm to
That code isn’t always the catalytic converter. Have it diagnosed at a reputable shop. It’d suck to spend that much a new converter and it be something else.
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