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Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:53 am to
Without property rights we don't have an economy or any semblance of a free society


Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:55 am to
No private property is the end goal of Marxism. No economy is the way government gets said property. If you can’t do anything with your property, then you won’t have any issues with turning it over to the state to avoid paying taxes on it.

The goal of Marxism is the least free society one could imagine
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 9:57 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:15 am to
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Without property rights we don't have an economy or any semblance of a free society

i've argued before that property rights are much more important to a free society than any other right (like speech, etc)

"the right to life" is esoteric and not tactile enough, and if the state becomes authoritarian then it won't matter anyway
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:17 am to
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Without property rights, freedom of assembly, freedom to travel, freedom to speak, freedom from religious persecution, and gun ownership we don't have an economy or any semblance of a free society


Just added some more to your already strong post.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Without property rights we don't have an economy or any semblance of a free society


This is a fascinating idea in libertarian philosophy.
All rights are property rights. Rape and murder are against the law because they are violations of property rights.
Your primary property is ownership of yourself. If someone kills you or rapes you it is a property crime.
Free speech that pisses you off does not violate your ownership of self, so laws restricting free speech are unjustified in a free society.
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