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So trump HAS NOT been impeached
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:26 am
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:26 am
Nancy needs to red rover it before anything is official
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:34 am to jb4
So I guess the debate is when is it defined as "impeached?"
Is this the ol' "who broke up with who?"
Is this the ol' "who broke up with who?"
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:35 am to jb4
So let Trump now have his turn
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:36 am to jb4
Let's get a link to something non-politically skewed, please.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:41 am to fjlee90
Noah Feldman, one of the Democrats’ top impeachment witnesses against President Donald Trump, said in an op-ed on Thursday that Democrats have not yet impeached the president despite their vote last night.
Feldman’s op-ed at Bloomberg News comes as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering withholding sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate because she is worried that the political trial would be biased in favor of the president.
“So far we haven’t seen anything that looks fair to us,” Pelosi told reporters last night. “That would’ve been our intention, but we’ll see what happens over there.”
Feldman noted that “according to the Constitution, impeachment is a process, not a vote,” and that while a modest delay would not pose a problem, an lengthy delay would be a “serious problem.”
“Impeachment as contemplated by the Constitution does not consist merely of the vote by the House, but of the process of sending the articles to the Senate for trial,” Feldman wrote. “Both parts are necessary to make an impeachment under the Constitution: The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. And the Senate must actually hold a trial.”
Feldman continued, “If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all.”
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Feldman’s op-ed at Bloomberg News comes as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering withholding sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate because she is worried that the political trial would be biased in favor of the president.
“So far we haven’t seen anything that looks fair to us,” Pelosi told reporters last night. “That would’ve been our intention, but we’ll see what happens over there.”
Feldman noted that “according to the Constitution, impeachment is a process, not a vote,” and that while a modest delay would not pose a problem, an lengthy delay would be a “serious problem.”
“Impeachment as contemplated by the Constitution does not consist merely of the vote by the House, but of the process of sending the articles to the Senate for trial,” Feldman wrote. “Both parts are necessary to make an impeachment under the Constitution: The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. And the Senate must actually hold a trial.”
Feldman continued, “If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all.”
LINK
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:51 am to hsfolk
If a district attorney draws up papers to charge you for a crime but then does not file the papers you have not been charged for a crime.
Trump has not yet been impeached!
Trump has not yet been impeached!
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:52 am to bird35
So Nancy is the Grinch that Stole Impeachmas?
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:53 am to hsfolk
quote:win win for everyone. Nance can lie to her loser commies and they'll eat it up.
If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all.”
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:58 am to hsfolk
quote:
Noah Feldman, one of the Democrats’ top impeachment witnesses against President Donald Trump, said in an op-ed on Thursday that Democrats have not yet impeached the president despite their vote last night.
Feldman’s op-ed at Bloomberg News comes as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering withholding sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate because she is worried that the political trial would be biased in favor of the president.
“So far we haven’t seen anything that looks fair to us,” Pelosi told reporters last night. “That would’ve been our intention, but we’ll see what happens over there.”
Feldman noted that “according to the Constitution, impeachment is a process, not a vote,” and that while a modest delay would not pose a problem, an lengthy delay would be a “serious problem.”
“Impeachment as contemplated by the Constitution does not consist merely of the vote by the House, but of the process of sending the articles to the Senate for trial,” Feldman wrote. “Both parts are necessary to make an impeachment under the Constitution: The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. And the Senate must actually hold a trial.”
Feldman continued, “If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all.”
LINK
Much obliged.
What a hag. No chest!
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:59 am to jb4
That corner is getting awfully small for those demon-cracks. Especially considering the number of fatasses on their side. Yes "Jerry", that means especially you. Just make sure that when you back all the way into that corner, That little weasel Adam Shitt is behind you. 
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:02 am to Boudreauboudreaugoly
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That little weasel Adam shite
I just watched a video of an American patriot reading adam schiff his rights as schiff tried to ignore him.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 9:03 am
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:07 am to jb4
"We have to pass it to see what's in it"
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:13 am to bird35
quote:On another thread, a poster (I think it was SC libertarian) drew a pretty good analogy to legal process (citation, indictment, etc.) that is never served upon the defendant. If we work from his analogy, your analysis is faulty.
If a district attorney draws up papers to charge you for a crime but then does not file the papers you have not been charged for a crime.
Trump has not yet been impeached!
The House action to date is the equivalent of the filing of a civil action or the act of securing an indictment in a felony proceeding. In the former case, the lawsuit was indeed filed. In the latter case, the criminal charges were indeed carried to the point of indictment. In both cases, however, the defendant can ignore those proceedings until they are served upon him.
That is the better analogy to the current impeachment status. The lawsuit has been filed. The indictment has been obtained from the grand jury. But the defendant/POTUS need not do anything until he is “served.”
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:16 am to AggieHank86
Hank making sense.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:16 am to hsfolk
quote:
Democrats’ vote on impeachment last night was the first time in U.S. history that impeachment was a purely partisan event as only Democrats and one independent member of Congress voted for it while all Republicans voted against it and were joined by multiple Democrats.
I feel like this keeps being mentioned by every news article about this, but they're all wrong. This wasn't purely partisan. There was bipartisan opposition.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:19 am to TBoy
So how many millions of dollars did Nancy's minions waste on this scam?
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:26 am to LSU Alumnus
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Is this the ol' "who broke up with who?"
It's the ol' "who broke up with who", although in this case Nancy's claiming they broke up when they never actually were a couple to begin with. This whole thing is nothing but masturbation material for the left, which is what happens when your entire platform since 2016 is "Trump bad".
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:27 am to jb4
At this point in our nation’s political history it would be a badge of honor for Trump to be impeached by the house. Makes him look better in my eyes. Just saying
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:27 am to AggieHank86
quote:
That is the better analogy to the current impeachment status. The lawsuit has been filed. The indictment has been obtained from the grand jury. But the defendant/POTUS need not do anything until he is “served.”
Except that the DA has been told by his boss to not even try to serve him because they know they can't win.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:31 am to hsfolk
quote:
Noah Feldman
Get him a coat!
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