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If you can’t deal with losses

Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:28 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67351 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:28 pm
You may as well not watch until after the All-star break it’s going to be while until we have our starting lineup and these guys find some sort of cohesion. We’ve lost to some pretty good teams so far without some important playersmissing from our lineup. I knew this shite would happen and some fans would think all is lost.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37771 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:35 pm to
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We’ve lost to some pretty good teams so far without some important playersmissing from our lineup.


3 of those 4 losses could have and should have been won with better coaching and our veteran players executing down the stretch
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8690 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:38 pm to
It’s not the losses. It’s how we’re losing. And the flaws were exhibiting. It’s the same shite that’s plagued us every year under Gentry. The lack of defense. The lack of a reliable half court offense. Poor in game rotations. General malaise.

It’s gentry. Not the losses. That simple.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40613 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:40 pm to
Random guy on Twitter just said "we should get coleslaw for these 100 points"
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:41 pm to
This is the one loss that is annoying. They were in the other games and competitive
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67351 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:48 pm to
Well, Gentry is and will be the coach.
I’lm looking forward to a game with Jrue, Favors and Zion on the floor. I didn’t see all of the game tonight, it it sounds like there was a lackidaisical effort for much of the game.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
30886 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:50 pm to
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It’s not the losses. It’s how we’re losing. And the flaws were exhibiting. It’s the same shite that’s plagued us every year under Gentry. The lack of defense. The lack of a reliable half court offense. Poor in game rotations. General malaise.


This guy gets it. I’m not expecting to make the playoffs this year. I’m also not expecting to get run out of the building by a junk team who’s on a back to back.
Posted by Stxpel
Member since Oct 2018
118 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:15 pm to
Someone else posted how we’ve started our seasons under Gentry. 1-11, 0-8, 0-6 4-0 then 6 straight losses. Something like that.

Now 0-4.

This is insanity.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:57 pm to
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It’s not the losses. It’s how we’re losing


I get your gripe if you're talking about tonight. the other 3 losses? that ship doesn't hold water. we were super competitive in those losses.

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It’s the same shite that’s plagued us every year under Gentry. The lack of defense.


different defensive scheme w/a different defensive coach & a bunch of new players.

also Erman had pretty solid defenses with Gentry here. can't really blame Gentry

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The lack of a reliable half court offense


this has so much to do with Lonzo. he has always played poorly in the half-court. now Gentry is trying to get him to drive & get to certain spots, and Lonzo won't do it. It's been driving the team/coaches crazy. this will take time

Uncle Al can draw up the perfect offense, but if the team isn't executing it, also not on Gentry

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Poor in game rotations.


Fair criticism, ill give you half a point. remember even without the injuries, it's difficult figuring out rotations with a bunch of new players

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General malaise.


it did look like the team gave up but this isn't something we typically see with a Jrue Holiday team






all-in-all, you can blame Gentry for rotations & probably ability to motivate your team, but that's about it. I am not happy about this loss either, but its irresponsible & lazy to dump everything on one or two people. it's also irresponsible to get uptight after 4 games
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20922 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:53 am to
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3 of those 4 losses could have and should have been won with better coaching and our veteran players executing down the stretch


It’s almost as if we are a super young team with new players everywhere trying to gel together....

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40613 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:54 am to
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. I’m also not expecting to get run out of the building by a junk team who’s on a back to back.


The Warriors arent a junk team. They have new pieces that are going to take time to gel as well. They are a upper half of the bracket playoff team.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:06 am to
Doesn't matter really, sick of this fricking shite! Starting in the damn whole every damn year under this show no emotion arse clown of a coach
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 9:07 am
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13764 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:07 am to
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Someone else posted how we’ve started our seasons under Gentry. 1-11, 0-8, 0-6 4-0 then 6 straight losses. Something like that.

Now 0-4.

This is insanity.


Last season's 4-0 start was the first time I believe Gentry had his projected starting 5 t ok begin a season. There are a list of justifiable gripes towards Gentry, but last year was the first without starting the season with a major injury to a key player.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8690 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:17 am to
I didn’t mean losing as in getting blown out. I up 3 with a minute left against Toronto out of a TO and you give a wide open three to Van fleet.

It’s blowing a 20 point lead against Dallas bc you get complacent and stop guarding the perimeter.

Houston in a vacuum was a “fine” loss. It just contributes to the 0-4.

Then bench Lonzo. Gentry has also only been successful with Nash and curry as is PG’s. He doesn’t exactly have a record of a “coach em up” PG coach.

Defensively....I mean how often are we going to make excuses for the guy? It’s like LSU under les with offense. At a certain point the excuses have to stop. There’s one constant under Gentry’s tenure and it’s gentry. Assistants who build good defenses elsewhere can’t build them here. Players who play good defense elsewhere suck here. Players with good defensive measurables never live up to them.

He’s convinced he can just roll the ball out and play fast and that’s enough. He doesn’t focus on defense, doesn’t emphasize defense, and that permeates to the team.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40613 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:30 am to
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I didn’t mean losing as in getting blown out. I up 3 with a minute left against Toronto out of a TO and you give a wide open three to Van fleet.



Up 6 with 3 to go as well.

That being said, in that last minute, Toronto played really really good defense and made some great shots. So props to them for playing well in crunch time.

Also, they had two guys have the greatest game of their career. We could have won, but you also have to give props to them for just playing a good game.
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6112 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:31 am to
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Then bench Lonzo


that's just not the thing you do with a super talented 22 year old kid trying to learn your scheme. you don't give up on someone in general after 4 games that's just terrible leadership.

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Defensively....I mean how often are we going to make excuses for the guy?


I'm not making excuses for him. I'm placing blame where it needs to be placed. He needs to answer for his shortcomings. But you cannot ignore the disconnect between what Gentry wanted to play, and the plays Dell went out and got. You cannot ignore the fact that AD didn't want to play the 5. You cannot ignore that this team has a bunch of new guys, key injuries, and a new defensive scheme

Posted by Tigerbiscuits
Mid-City
Member since Nov 2011
1105 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:38 am to
Why does the offense look like this? How can NBA players not know where to go? After a basket last night, the ball was thrown in to Lonzo who wasn't paying attention and almost tripped. Several dribble handoffs were the "no you take it, nevermind I'll take it" variety. This is not a talent issue, it's something that a well coached 7th grade team can do.

Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12838 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:47 am to
Gentry’s offense is free flowing. The players dictate how they want to attack based on what they see from opposing teams. It requires some chemistry and a field general who knows how to exploit defenses. Ball is great in transition and when he is able to push the pace when defenses aren’t set. He’s very inconsistent in the half court playing against set defenses. This will be something that requires a lot of experience. He’s still a WIP on that front.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8690 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:56 am to
There’s a fine line between free flowing and disorganized/non-existent
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