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re: Trial Lawyer Corruption in Louisiana
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:26 am to theronswanson
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:26 am to theronswanson
quote:
People that say they have a "simple somution" to complex issues are usually talking out of their arse, and this post proves it.
This is how states w/ no fault systems operate.
Hint: their auto rates are much lower.
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:40 am to udtiger
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This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:52 am to udtiger
quote:
no fault system
Would dramatically lower all our rates and cost all the TV shysters millions. The only solution to break the current cycle. Otherwise these crooks that all finished at the bottom of their class and aren’t capable of doing real legal work will continue to get rich at all of our expenses. Louisiana has created entire industries of vultures living off of this. Law firms, egged on by our Governor, suing oil companies (imagine why those companies are taking their new projects to Texas). Then as mentioned above, a whole cadre of toe tapper drivers that make a living off being professional victims.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:53 am to ExtraGravy
quote:
ExtraGravy
You are comparing the State of Louisiana, with its 4.5 million in population, and few urban areas, to:
New York
Florida
Michigan
Texas
as well as DC (completely urban)
and Delaware (north of the C & D is primarily urban)
It's not perfect, by any means, but the question was how to blunt the lawyers and this is one mechanism that would also result in lower premiums
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:58 am to ragincajun77
How many settle out of court vs. going to trial? The problem is the ones that end up settling before trial. Usually only the cases that are legitimate make it to trial. The rest are pretty much case mill variety that never has a chance in trial and don’t deserve a fraction of the payout received.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:29 am to Valleycat
Legacy lawsuits are indeed an issue but they’re not what is causing the high auto insurance rates.
That is a combo of bad Prescriptive periods, direct action, and a poor population looking to get rich from a lawsuit brought about by irresponsible promises by trial attorneys who advertise incessantly on tv and billboards about getting paid!
All of these things need to be curtailed.
That is a combo of bad Prescriptive periods, direct action, and a poor population looking to get rich from a lawsuit brought about by irresponsible promises by trial attorneys who advertise incessantly on tv and billboards about getting paid!
All of these things need to be curtailed.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:34 am to ExtraGravy
quote:
Michigan, the #1 most expensive state in the country, is a no-fault state.
Michigan law requires all policies to cover unlimited med bills forever. Apples/Oranges
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:31 am to HuskyPanda
Another issue that should be illuminated is the hyper sensitivity of our culture to what “offends” them.
To make a lawsuit viable, someone needs to be “offended”. That can mean different things to different people. Sensitivities can be enhanced. I might not be offended but if I talk to a plaintiff attorney, they can be very convincing about making me feel offended. They’re real good at it. They know how to stir the pot as an artform.
They need to sue to make money. To grow business, they need more people to be offended. Broaden the definition of what “offended” means, and presto.... more business!
To make a lawsuit viable, someone needs to be “offended”. That can mean different things to different people. Sensitivities can be enhanced. I might not be offended but if I talk to a plaintiff attorney, they can be very convincing about making me feel offended. They’re real good at it. They know how to stir the pot as an artform.
They need to sue to make money. To grow business, they need more people to be offended. Broaden the definition of what “offended” means, and presto.... more business!
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:38 am to ragincajun77
quote:
The vast majority of personal injury lawsuits are tried before a jury, not a bench trial.
The vast majority are settled before trial.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:04 am to Ex-Popcorn
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This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:04 am to Spasweezy
This is incorrect. Legitimate cases NEVER go to trial. I only have to go to trial when I have a problem with the case.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:09 am to Spasweezy
95+ percent settle before trial.
And you've got it arse backwards. The legit cases settle real quick. If it's a hard impact, plaintiff goes to real doctors, there aren't any priors, and the post accident MRIs are bad, those get closed quickly.
The ones that get tried have serious issues- i.e. guy has three open suits, five prior accidents this decade, treats at a questionable chiro, plaintiff's attorney is being unreasonable, and there are a lot of other inconsistencies in the records/testimony. Those are the ones you try, and more often then not, they typically happen with plaintiff mills.
That or a true liability dispute.
But most of the settled cases are over-valued because of high meds and possible excess judgments.
And you've got it arse backwards. The legit cases settle real quick. If it's a hard impact, plaintiff goes to real doctors, there aren't any priors, and the post accident MRIs are bad, those get closed quickly.
The ones that get tried have serious issues- i.e. guy has three open suits, five prior accidents this decade, treats at a questionable chiro, plaintiff's attorney is being unreasonable, and there are a lot of other inconsistencies in the records/testimony. Those are the ones you try, and more often then not, they typically happen with plaintiff mills.
That or a true liability dispute.
But most of the settled cases are over-valued because of high meds and possible excess judgments.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:39 am to The Johnny Lawrence
quote:
The Johnny Lawrence
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:49 am to AlxTgr
The best is the money they steal from their clients after the case settles.
Say case settles for $500,000
Attorney first in at 30% = $150,000
Hospital and medical next at about $150,000
Patient gets Maybe $200,000 out of the deal and is fricked for life it they had a back or neck surgery because they will have another within 5 years! ask anyone who has had a lumbar fusion that is 5 years out from their surgery.
Lawyer then takes that $150,000 form Hospital and medical and says, "Hey Dr. ________ you billed me $40,000.00 how about I give you $30,000 and we call it a day"? "Hey Mr. MRI company, you billed me $1,800.00 for that MRI how about I give you $1,000.00" and keeps the difference for himself.
HAPPENS ALL DAY EVERY DAY
Say case settles for $500,000
Attorney first in at 30% = $150,000
Hospital and medical next at about $150,000
Patient gets Maybe $200,000 out of the deal and is fricked for life it they had a back or neck surgery because they will have another within 5 years! ask anyone who has had a lumbar fusion that is 5 years out from their surgery.
Lawyer then takes that $150,000 form Hospital and medical and says, "Hey Dr. ________ you billed me $40,000.00 how about I give you $30,000 and we call it a day"? "Hey Mr. MRI company, you billed me $1,800.00 for that MRI how about I give you $1,000.00" and keeps the difference for himself.
HAPPENS ALL DAY EVERY DAY
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:51 am to Icansee4miles
quote:
Would dramatically lower all our rates and cost all the TV shysters millions. The only solution to break the current cycle. Otherwise these crooks that all finished at the bottom of their class and aren’t capable of doing real legal work will continue to get rich at all of our expenses. Louisiana has created entire industries of vultures living off of this. Law firms, egged on by our Governor, suing oil companies (imagine why those companies are taking their new projects to Texas). Then as mentioned above, a whole cadre of toe tapper drivers that make a living off being professional victims.
You mad bro?
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:11 pm to Uncs
quote:
Lawyer then takes that $150,000 form Hospital and medical and says, "Hey Dr. ________ you billed me $40,000.00 how about I give you $30,000 and we call it a day"? "Hey Mr. MRI company, you billed me $1,800.00 for that MRI how about I give you $1,000.00" and keeps the difference for himself.
Lol what? No it doesn't
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:16 pm to Uncs
quote:Umm, no brah. That's a straight ticket to losing your license and going to jail.
Lawyer then takes that $150,000 form Hospital and medical and says, "Hey Dr. ________ you billed me $40,000.00 how about I give you $30,000 and we call it a day"? "Hey Mr. MRI company, you billed me $1,800.00 for that MRI how about I give you $1,000.00" and keeps the difference for himself.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:19 pm to Uncs
quote:
Uncs
Guess who doesn’t know what he’s talking about
Posted on 9/4/19 at 1:39 pm to Verbal Kent
I stand corrected. Thanks for info.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 1:40 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
Thanks for info. I always assumed the opposite. Makes sense. Still a jacked up system when people can get paid for a minor collision with no real injuries.
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