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re: Economists use beer as measure to document failures of socialism
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:53 am to BugAC
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:53 am to BugAC
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Socialism is a disaster everywhere it has been tried, historical evidence illustrates this,” added Lawson. “The freer the country is, the more it prospers.”
It truly baffles me how anyone cannot see this.
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:59 am to BugAC
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Robert Lawson
Was my Econ professor at SMU last year
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:33 pm to BugAC
None of those countries implemented it right
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:39 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I think I've read somewhere where we just rather recently surpassed the pre-prohibition number of different breweries operating in the US.
We surpassed that number about 5-10 years ago.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:47 pm to BugAC
Rather recently.
I always include wiggle words when not sure.
I always include wiggle words when not sure.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:55 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Rather recently.
I always include wiggle words when not sure.
I'm a beer nerd. I would have let that slide, if i weren't.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 12:58 pm to BugAC
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quote:“Socialism is a disaster everywhere it has been tried, historical evidence illustrates this,” added Lawson. [b]“The freer the country is, the more it prospers[/b].”
Jumping Christ in a handbasket what a moronic quote...surely this was said tongue in cheek? The freer a country is the more it prospers. Good god almighty you couldn't be any more ignorant than to believe any such tripe as that. The most prosperous nations on earth and in the history of mankind have all been HEAVILY REGULATED. There is NO ownership of ANYTHING without regulations that ensure private property rights BUT impede on the freedoms of others to use property, steal property or otherwise prevent its use by its rightful owner. Somalia is a great example of a truly free nation....people in Somalia are free to do just about anything they have the intestinal fortitude to do because there is no one to stop them if they are intent on doing it....that's prosperous??
There are a BUNCH of socialist economies in Europe and they make a BUNCH of truly good beer. The United States, I know, is not a socialist economy in y'alls eyes (it is as much as any European nation but that'll make many of you spit up) and presumably as prosperous as a nation gets...and makes some seriously LOUSY beer that it sales by the boat load.....the entire premise is exactly the kind of silliness that Fox puts out and many of you eat with a spoon....
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:09 pm to germandawg
Imagine being a prog and devoting yourself to making long posts without knowing people never read them except for jbird do he can see how idiotic the author is.
Sad
Sad
This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:12 pm to roadGator
quote:I read his rambling walls of bullshite just to see how fricking idiotic he can be.
Imagine being a prog and devoting yourself to making long posts without knowing people never read them.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:13 pm to BugAC
This is a fantastic way to get the point across. 
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:16 pm to Jbird
Corrected my post.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:19 pm to germandawg
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There are a BUNCH of socialist economies in Europe and they make a BUNCH of truly good beer.
1) did you read the article completely.
2) Name them.
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The United States, I know, is not a socialist economy in y'alls eyes (it is as much as any European nation but that'll make many of you spit up) and presumably as prosperous as a nation gets...and makes some seriously LOUSY beer that it sales by the boat load
I'd put America's beer up against ANY BEER, worldwide. Our craft beer market is heads and tails better than anything in the word. The only category that could contend is geueze/lambic in Belgium vs. American sours, and even then, i've enjoyed far more American sours than Belgian sours. Cantillon, Drie Fonteinen, and a couple others are the outlier.
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....the entire premise is exactly the kind of silliness that Fox puts out and many of you eat with a spoon....
Fox didn't "put it out", genius. They just reported it. Economists wrote the book on it. Do you deny that the truly socialist countries can't produce quality...anything really?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 1:20 pm to Jbird
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I read his rambling walls of bullshite just to see how fricking idiotic he can be.
Same here. And yeah, idiotic rambling is an apt description. He's all over the place.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:43 am to BugAC
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Fox didn't "put it out", genius. They just reported it. Economists wrote the book on it. Do you deny that the truly socialist countries can't produce quality...anything really?
What is a truly socialist country? Do you mean a country with a socialist economy or one with socialistic tendencies where collective effort is utilized to meet some societal requirements (all nations in the history of man have had some element of the latter).
China isn't one. Cuba has a communist economy....And can and does produce incredibly good healthcare, such that many Europeans, Asians and Canadians travel to Cuba for affordable, high quality health care.
I think most of the posters here consider almost all of Europe socialist countries...and almost all of Europe produces all sorts of high quality shite...
Here is a better question...what nation on earth practices unfettered capitalism? If they aren't ruled by war-lords there chief industry is banking and finance....they don't produce anything. Singapore may be the exception BUT the government of Singapore owns more of the means of production than every nation on earth except Norway...so its hard to not call Singapore a truly socialist country....
Totalitarianism is what doesn't work....not unfettered capitalism or communism...when you have a totalitarian government forcing people to produce they won't period...and when you have no law (unfettered capitalism)only the most willing can survive. SOmewhere in the middle is where the sweet spot is and that is a combination of sensible regulation, sensible taxation to provide for collective services and opportunity....and that is the western world in a nutshell.....
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:22 am to BugAC
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“And, using alcohol as our economic measure – when Georgia was under the USSR and their wine industry was under Soviet control, it was a disaster. Now, it’s a wine mecca, produces really unique wines that don’t exist anywhere else in the world, and it's where wine snobs from across the globe now go to taste.”
While living in Eastern Europe, I used to drink Georgian wine and loved it.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:29 am to germandawg
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What is a truly socialist country? Do you mean a country with a socialist economy or one with socialistic tendencies where collective effort is utilized to meet some societal requirements (all nations in the history of man have had some element of the latter).
China isn't one.
You should REALLY read the article, before posting.
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Cuba has a communist economy....And can and does produce incredibly good healthcare, such that many Europeans, Asians and Canadians travel to Cuba for affordable, high quality health care.
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I think most of the posters here consider almost all of Europe socialist countries...and almost all of Europe produces all sorts of high quality shite...
Again, you really need to read the article.
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what nation on earth practices unfettered capitalism?
Listen, guber. No one is stating anything about "unfettered" capitalism. For the love of God, read the damn article, you twit.
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If they aren't ruled by war-lords there chief industry is banking and finance....they don't produce anything. Singapore may be the exception BUT the government of Singapore owns more of the means of production than every nation on earth except Norway...so its hard to not call Singapore a truly socialist country....
Totalitarianism is what doesn't work....not unfettered capitalism or communism...when you have a totalitarian government forcing people to produce they won't period...and when you have no law (unfettered capitalism)only the most willing can survive. SOmewhere in the middle is where the sweet spot is and that is a combination of sensible regulation, sensible taxation to provide for collective services and opportunity....and that is the western world in a nutshell.....
Inane rabble.
READ THE ARTICLE. Then quote parts of the article (within the context) and we can discuss.
Posted on 8/1/19 at 9:39 am to BugAC
The market is smarter than any of us. That's the genius of capitalism.
In a capitalistic system (even those with malevolent actors, monopolies, trusts, etc), one does well, generally, being of service to others.
In a Socialist/Communist system, one does well by sucking up and being of value to the authorities.
Of the two, one is clearly freer and far more of a meritocracy than the other, which is the antithesis of a meritocracy. It is, at a minimum, corrupting by nature and, typically, utterly corrupt.
In a capitalistic system (even those with malevolent actors, monopolies, trusts, etc), one does well, generally, being of service to others.
In a Socialist/Communist system, one does well by sucking up and being of value to the authorities.
Of the two, one is clearly freer and far more of a meritocracy than the other, which is the antithesis of a meritocracy. It is, at a minimum, corrupting by nature and, typically, utterly corrupt.
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