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Posted on 7/22/19 at 6:32 pm to jimbeam
Cool website, though some of those projects are going back to the 90’s. I understand money is a concern, but shouldn’t BP money be going to perform fixes like this.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 6:44 pm to eng08
Same here. I worked on a couple also.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 7:14 pm to TJG210
A lot of BP settlement projects are in engineering right now. Some are starting construction very soon.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 7:25 pm to jimbeam
The water has to go somewhere. If you are outside of the levee protection your are fricked with storm surge. The coastal restoration is too little too late.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 8:23 pm to TJG210
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BP money
Always get a good chuckle over the irony that the BP disaster/money may actually end up doing more good than bad for the state.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 7/22/19 at 8:32 pm to BlackCoffeeKid
How did four point road make out. Especially by the marina
Posted on 7/22/19 at 8:35 pm to jimbeam
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jimbeam
Thank you. I've had a long day and didn't have to energy to fight it today.
The shear lack of knowledge about how much time effort and money that has gone into the coast and is earmarked to go into rebuilding it is mind boggling. There are a lot of really smart, really passionate people doing everything they can to sustain our coast. Unfortunately, right now, we dont have the necessary resources to snap our fingers and complete every project on the books. To those involved, Louisiana thanks you. You do the Lord's work.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 8:43 pm to The Last Coco
And sadly, in the end it will most likely be for naught.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 8:44 pm to The Last Coco
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The shear lack of knowledge about how much time effort and money that has gone into the coast and is earmarked to go into rebuilding it is mind boggling.
But how much is being pissed away on useless studies? I’m not saying nothing is being done or someone can just snap their fingers for it to be fixed, but going out year after year and seeing less and less is depressing. Trinity island probably lost close to 50 -75 yds off the eastern edge from this storm alone. Not only is it a shame to see more and more of the coast being washed away, it’s a giant navigation hazard.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 8:51 pm to The Last Coco
Don’t take it the wrong way either, we both want the same thing...from a public perspective and going out there it’s hard to see many tangible results.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 8:59 pm to TJG210
2019 budget
75% went to E&D and construction, 10% to O&M. Page 13 of 85
2020 and beyond
Go look at page 20 of 36.
I would encourage everyone to take a look at these as well. The state just went through and is wrapping up a heavy E&D phase of spending. Moving forward, more and more money is going to be spent on actual construction. Funding is not all available in one year. BUT, huge marsh creation projects are coming, we’re talking double and triple the size of past CPRA jobs. It’s coming. I know, it would be great to just say hey let’s go build some marsh and see some progress. But can you imagine the public outcry if we go spend Willy nilly building something that is poorly designed and fails in 5 years?
75% went to E&D and construction, 10% to O&M. Page 13 of 85
2020 and beyond
Go look at page 20 of 36.
I would encourage everyone to take a look at these as well. The state just went through and is wrapping up a heavy E&D phase of spending. Moving forward, more and more money is going to be spent on actual construction. Funding is not all available in one year. BUT, huge marsh creation projects are coming, we’re talking double and triple the size of past CPRA jobs. It’s coming. I know, it would be great to just say hey let’s go build some marsh and see some progress. But can you imagine the public outcry if we go spend Willy nilly building something that is poorly designed and fails in 5 years?
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:02 pm to GREENHEAD22
You sound very sad these days.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:03 pm to TJG210
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Don’t take it the wrong way either, we both want the same thing...from a public perspective and going out there it’s hard to see many tangible results
Speaking from personal experience and knowledge of those actively fighting the good fight, they are more aware than most (at least at the state and local level - I cant speak for the federal agencies, they're a crap shoot) of how bad the issue is. And they're more frustrated by it than you are because they know how to fix it but are restrained by bureaucracy and politics oftentimes.
Not only do these individuals spend all day working to restore and protect the coast as their job, they also spend their free time there as well fishing, birding, boating and hunting. They're in the job because they're passionate about the landscape.
And yeah, in the end, barring substantial reforms to the way we do things and the way we allocate time and resources, it is fighting a losing battle. But it is 100% a battle worth fighting.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:03 pm to TJG210
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But how much is being pissed away on useless studies?
Here's a problem. The "just do something crowd"
How do you expect them to do the right thing without data?
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:07 pm to TigerBait1971
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How do you expect them to do the right thing without data?
Haven’t the rock dam breakers proven effective in shielding these islands?
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:13 pm to TJG210
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Haven’t the rock dam breakers proven effective in shielding these islands?
They've proven effective in dissipating wave driven erosion. That largely isn't the issue on barrier islands. Issues with longshore sediment transport is the larger driving factor on barrier islands.
Barrier islands are dynamic and designed to roll back on themselves and erode and rebuild constantly. It is a different mechanism than interior marshes which are dependent on annual river sediment deposition and are being eroded by unnatural saltwater intrusion and wave action driven by man made canals and now open bays.
And while rocks can provide an energy sink to attenuate wave action they also interrupt the overall flow of sediment along the coast.
The short answer is, it's just not that simple.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:18 pm to The Last Coco
I fully disagree with you, I have dealt with state and federal government on multiple occasions and they are not fit to run a lemonade stand. If you want any productivity you are going to have to bring in the private sector. A losing battle isn't worth fighting, its time for citizens to bring in the experts and give a middle finger to the state and local government who continue to fail time after time and use it as a election point. History repeats itself.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:18 pm to The Last Coco
I see you haven’t lost your touch
quote:Ever dealt with CPRA? Best public agency I’ve ever dealt with. Everyone has a personally vested interest in successful and cost efficient projects, as Coco mentioned earlier. Even better guys out of the office.
RickFromArizona
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 9:20 pm
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