Robert Williams III > Mitchell Robinson

I do think Robert Williams can be a valuable piece in a trade. I see him more along the lines as a 3rd big in the rotation. If he can continue to improve and just show her can offer consistent production, he can have the Diallo minutes.

Great point and research. I have never seen anyone bring this up. Good call..

If we got Williams from the celts and didn’t address center in free agency, splitting time at center with Okafor and Williams wouldn’t be terrible for a year and both get more experience. And then when we play small we can put Zion out there at the 5 for stretches to stretch the floor a little better

Not to disparage Williams but as a counter point there’s a reason RW3 is called the Timelord.

Robinson fell in the draft because he decided to not attend Western Kentucky and ended up being suspended indefinitely from the team after leaving campus. He prepared for the draft with his time off.

Per 36 Is not the best metric to compare them. Robinson played in 66 games, started 19, and averaged 20.6 mpg. Williams played in 32 games, started 2, and averaged only 8.8 mpg.

For example, here are three young PF’s per 36 last year.

Player A: 64 GP, 1 GS, 14.0 MPG
15.5 points, 13.3 rebounds, 1.3 blocks, 62% FG

Player B: 21 GP, 2 GS, 12.0 MPG
24.7 points, 11.9 rebounds, 1.4 blocks, 57% FG

Player C: 74 GP, 5 GS, 24.8 MPG
20.4 points, 13.5 rebounds, 0.6 blocks, 59% FG

Using the Per 36, all of these players are comparable. If given your pick of the 3, Player C would probably get picked last just based on Per 36. But the GP and MPG skew these numbers big time, making it an apples to oranges comparison.

I understand the point of your post is more to say that people that have been getting excited about Robinson’s potential shouldn’t overlook Williams, and I agree. But Robinson’s sample size makes him much more interesting.

Btw: A= Diallo B= Christian Wood C= Sabonis

You are correct on the point of my post Baron. I couldn’t stress enough the extremely small sample size. Per 36 was merely to show they did similar things in their time on the court, nothing more. Williams was often the 5th option on the court in his very small opportunity with the Celtics. There’s not really any metric to do a real comparison based on NBA stats.

But again, that is more my point. Everyone is excited about Robinson and not Williams. When it’s Williams who is the one, totally in my opinion, that will lead to winning basketball down the road.

I mentioned Clint Capela as a comparison. Clint is listed at an identical 6’10, 240 pounds. That’s the type of player I see when I look at Robert Williams III.

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I don’t trust his off the court, and his work ethic. Not as much as I trust Williams.

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You obviously aren’t very familiar with Williams work ethic or lack of I should say.

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But the biggest thing for me is that Robinson fell to the second round for a reason. I don’t trust his off the court, and his work ethic. Not as much as I trust Williams.

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Mitch dropped because he didn’t have any college tape and the exact reasons around his Western Kentucky departures were unknown. He did work his arse off despite not playing college ball though and there was never anything out of New York questioning his work ethic. As someone that watched Mitch a lot out of high school, he has completely changed his game in the nba which reflects how coachable he is. Off the court, the dude is a lighthearted jokester. There will never be an off the court issue with Mitch. Quit throwing disparaging shite against the wall for no reason lol.

In terms of Williams. Dude if you are going to question 1 guys work ethic that has actually never been mentioned as an issue, actually do some damn research on the other guy you are comparing him to lol.

Williams 100% dropped to 27 due to work ethic and coachability. It was talked about for about 10 minutes on draft night. That was 100% the main concern with Williams.

Also, Williams overslept a scheduled conference call with the Boston press after he was drafted.

Then he managed to miss his first flight and practice with Boston as well.

After that I didn’t even keep up with him, but I assume the shenanigans may have continued because the dude literally never played despite his talent level.


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Missed Practice

First link is about work ethic, 2nd about oversleeping media obligation.

Bro if you want to compare the 2 as prospects that’s fine, but the work ethic toss in against Mitch, when Robert Williams is actually the one that has a history with all of that is pretty shitty of you.
And as Baron alluded to as well, comparing per 36 numbers when 1 guy played 21 mins a game and the other played 8 mins is kind of an abomination.

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Yabusele

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tell us about him
what’s he got going for him?

sure would be great if a minor Celtics piece turned into gold

Here are the nbadraft.net reports for Williams and Yabusele:

Robert Williams

Guerschon Yabusele

Looks like Williams has a much higher ceiling (DeAndre Jordan) but could easily be out of the league in 2/3 years (work ethic/maturity is a serious concern). Currently looks closer to floor than ceiling.

Yabusele is very raw PF and hasn't had much playing time to improve in Boston. He has a higher floor (meh backup PF) but much lower ceiling (Carl Landry) than Williams.