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re: Multiple NBA Teams Phasing Out Term 'Owner'

Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:25 pm to
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you just read one definition out of three pages


I read and screenshotted the top definition of the link YOU provided with zero context. I asked you to expound on your shite, mijo. You're up in here playing games now.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:30 pm to
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A word currently used to describe "consciousness" and being aware of the truth behind things "the man" doesn't want you to know i.e. classism, racism, and any other social injustices. The term comes from a genuine place but is becoming overused. People mainly use it to sound like deep thinkers when they are really just following a trend.


Ok so let's unpack this one without your stupid bolding that you think proves your silly point.

Your contention is that people who disagree with the word "owner" being inherently and inextricably tied to chattel slavery in America aren't aware of the truth behind the word that "the man" doesn't want us to know?

What, oh what, pray tell, is this great truth?

OR

People who disagree with the word "owner" being inherently and inextricably tied to chattel slavery in America are eschewing following a trend of faux-deep thinking.

So which is it?
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:55 pm to
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Your contention is that people who disagree with the word "owner" being tied to chattel slavery in America aren't aware of the truth behind the word that "the man" doesn't want us to know?

What, oh what, pray tell, is this great truth?


like i said earlier, you can own a house, you can own a car, you can own a candy bar.

the premise of the thread (and the truth) is that the word "owner" is tied to, among other things, chattel slavery in 19th century America. you disagree.

nothing about the business will change.

getting away from "owners" might be a calculated move by Adam Silver in CBA negotiations. he's clearly shown to be the most player-friendly sports commissioner in American history
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Mr Perfect
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:57 pm to
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 premise of the thread (and the truth) is that the word "owner" is tied to, among other things, chattel slavery in 19th century America. 


this
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:01 pm to
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this
the business won't change. there are just going to be other words and terms used.
Posted by Mr Perfect
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:02 pm to
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there are just going to be other words and terms used.


it's nice to see.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:06 pm to
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like i said earlier, you can own a house, you can own a car, you can own a candy bar.


And you can own a sports franchise.

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the word "owner" is tied to, among other things, chattel slavery in 19th century America. you disagree. 


This is disingenuous. The word predates America itself, and is hardly used in any sort of derogatory context in the enterprise in question. Your conflation of ownership of a franchise with ownership of human beings is wilfully disingenuous on your part, and you've done a remarkably poor job of defending this flimsy premise.

Some "truth" there. More like allowing your own pretentiousness regarding social issues to supplant logical thought.

There are a PASSEL of benign words that were used during the era of American slavery. It's ridiculous to kowtow to those who pick and choose to take random ones out of context purely for the sake of social justice preening.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:18 pm to
TbirdSpur, why do you continue to engage with this retard? He's obviously striving to manipulate people to conflate a term that's associated with owning a business/franchise all that in today's BUSINESS EMPLOYER-EMPLOYEE context with owning chattel slavery in the 19th Century to achieve socialist bullshite ends that mean nothing in the grand scheme of anything. There's really nothing to gain with this dialogue, with all due respect, retards gonna retard yknow?
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:19 pm to
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Your conflation of ownership of a franchise with ownership of human beings is wilfully disingenuous on your part,


think about who watches the league with AD, Lebron, Kawhi, etc. Now think about how a league with 450 random TD posters would do.

without the 450 of the best basketball players in the world, the NBA franchise values would sink like a Steph Curry 3. Collectively, them and the owners are partners in the business, as shown by the basketball revenue split in the CBA. The better the league does, the better they all do.

This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 11:27 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:21 pm to
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TbirdSpur, why do you continue to engage with this retard?


Sometimes I like twisting idiots into logic pretzels
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:23 pm to
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without the 450 of the best basketball players in the world, the NBA franchise values would sink like a Steph Curry 3. Collectively, them and the owners are partners in the business, as shown by the basketball revenue split in the CBA.


None of these words equate "owner" with slavery.

Try a more logical rebuttal. If you can find one.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:32 pm to
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Sometimes I like twisting idiots into logic pretzels


Not gonna argue with that I'm more a drive-by guy, annihilate on the first take then leave
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:42 pm to
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None of these words equate "owner" with slavery.
you don't need any other words for that.

really don't think the NBA itself is going really deep in this subject. it's more likely they listened to what Draymond had to say and went "mmmmhmmm".

they would rather make Draymond Green (and other fans) happy knowing that people who are against this change will keep watching basketball anyway. 99% of fans won't even notice it
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:24 am to
You know growing up I always wondered what it would take for us to move to a post-racial society?

People keep approaching issues like these like you do, where it’s apparently okay for Draymond to refer to himself as the owner of equity but when a white person does it, it harkens back to slavery (inexplicably and with a clearly racist double standard); and we will never achieve that. Ironically, although I’m quite sure you think you are advocating for progress, your mentality stands in the way of the real progress we should all strive for.

The word owner when taken in context is benign and if you spend all your time sowing up divisions among us for complete non-issues, all you do is annoy the masses, stir up racially motivated anger in the minority, and slightly weaken our society bit by bit.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 7:26 am
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:44 am to
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the premise of the thread (and the truth) is that the word "owner" is tied to, among other things, chattel slavery in 19th century America.


Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:12 am to
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if you spend all your time sowing up divisions among us for complete non-issues, all you do is annoy the masses, stir up racially motivated anger in the minority, and slightly weaken our society bit by bit.


The sadly ironic thing is these are the same people who will leap to blame random politicians for being divisive, when to be honest the real purveyors of such discord are staring right back at them in the mirror.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:16 am to
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the premise of the thread (and the truth) is that the word "owner" is tied to, among other things, chattel slavery in 19th century America.


There is no truth to this. What kind of tard are you
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:21 am to
Yup. So what next? The word “Trade” is to be determined racist because of “slave trade”. So teams can only trade white dudes?

Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:25 am to
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There is no truth to this. What kind of tard are you
then this wouldn't have been a thread... But alas, here we are
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:30 am to
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then this wouldn't have been a thread... But alas, here we are



Because the person causing this is very low iq kinda like you are

Guys bitchin about "owner" yet calls himself one on his Social Media

Makes sense
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