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re: Muh socialism
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:42 pm to goatmilker
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:42 pm to goatmilker
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Its bad. Call it a pay off or a hand out or smart leverage or a host of other monikers but trying to find a gotcha with the word socialism is retarded.
I agree. Weak minded people continue to demonstrate just how weak they truly are. Gotcha here, Gotcha there, Gotcha nowhere, it's like crying wolf every single day.
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:19 pm to Disgeaux Bob
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I’m pretty sure farmers work for a living.....
ummmm...the idea here is that their "living" is harmed by the tariffs....no?
You can't have it both ways.
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... I would say that most on welfare do not.
Perhaps. I do not know the statistics. But, there are a large number that work...but, cannot earn enough. Thus, receive welfare. Isn't that the situation here? At least, that is the claim "Farmers are working hard. But, cannot earn enough (because of tariffs). Thus, here is some Welfare to help you.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:22 pm to the_watcher
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How is this like actual socialism? Does the government own the means of production? Do they control the economic exchange? Did the farmers have their land confiscated by the government? Do you even know what mother fricking socialism is?
I know what socialism is but the OP is using the definition of socialism that most board posters go with
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:24 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Perhaps. I do not know the statistics. But, there are a large number that work...but, cannot earn enough. Thus, receive welfare. Isn't that the situation here? At least, that is the claim "Farmers are working hard. But, cannot earn enough (because of tariffs). Thus, here is some Welfare to help you.
I've also heard quite a few Trumpkins say that tariffs don't affect anybody, yet here we are with subsidies....
Seems they can't decide whether tariffs affect Americans or not
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:25 pm to jptiger2009
US collecting how many billions in tariffs from china? is that more or less then the money he wants to give to farmers to lessen the blow.....
Hint..... its not more.....
Hint..... its not more.....
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:32 pm to jptiger2009
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Muh socialism
npr
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The Trump administration will provide $16 billion in aid to keep farmers afloat as they reel from the yearlong trade war between the U.S. and China, Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue told reporters in a briefing on Thursday.
Didn't those welfare Queens just receive a 10 year / $867 billion dollar farm subsidy last year? Now another emergency $16 billion dollars?
I thought only Communist China subsidized private business?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:34 pm to sugar71
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sugar71
Your thoughts about the welfare queens in the hood ?
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:34 pm to jptiger2009
This is not new...
Up to $30 billion is available to the program every year, an amount that has not changed since 1987, according to the Congressional Research Service. Allotment of the program's funds do not require Congressional approval.
This also includes funding for Hurrican Michael relief which the Democrats refuse to pass.
Up to $30 billion is available to the program every year, an amount that has not changed since 1987, according to the Congressional Research Service. Allotment of the program's funds do not require Congressional approval.
This also includes funding for Hurrican Michael relief which the Democrats refuse to pass.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:41 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Exactly.
Perhaps. I do not know the statistics. But, there are a large number that work...but, cannot earn enough.
Walmart employees alone receive somewhere around $6-7 billion in public assistance. I'm sure other fast food & low wage employees use some assistance to get by.
These same posters also have dismissive remarks towards the Billions of dollars paid out in Earned Income Credit for those low wage workers.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:41 pm to 93and99
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sugar71
Is a welfare queen in da hood.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:42 pm to The Egg
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why exactly should anyone sympathize with these farmers anyway?
if you're not making money, do something else.
I have a hard time getting upset at the people that literally keep us alive.
I'd rather subsidize farmers than have to rely on foreign countries for our food.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:42 pm to The Egg
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why exactly should anyone sympathize with these farmers anyway?
if you're not making money, do something else.
I have a hard time getting upset at the people that literally keep us alive.
I'd rather subsidize farmers than have to rely on foreign countries for our food.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:46 pm to Tractor Tug60
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Is a welfare queen in da hood.
I see .
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:46 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
Yeah, I'm not going to get worked up about this.
Trump is working the long play. Americans have A.D.D.
Trump is working the long play. Americans have A.D.D.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:47 pm to 93and99
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You are right , Trump is wrong. But I am consistent , no handouts for ANYONE.
I am more agreeable to giving someone who is working some help.
How about we stop payments to the worthless dregs of society who wont get a job? Then we can consider stopping payments to the other folks. The leaches are a much greater problem than a few farmers.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:59 pm to alphaandomega
quote:Selective socialism.
How about we stop payments to the worthless dregs of society who wont get a job? Then we can consider stopping payments to the other folks. The leaches are a much greater problem than a few farmers.
Most low wage / minimum wage workers get some form of public assistance or Earned Income Credit.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:01 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Subsidizing the farmers is more of a hand up than a hand out. No farmers equals no food. China start importing more US goods and the tariffs disappear along with the subsidy. I don’t know the statistics either but welfare has an irrefutable reputation for being a “hand out” program.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:02 pm to alphaandomega
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How about we stop payments to the worthless dregs of society who wont get a job?
I want to end SS too man
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:06 pm to Disgeaux Bob
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Subsidizing the farmers is more of a hand up than a hand out. No farmers equals no food.
I'm not arguing the merits. Only the wording.
This is Welfare. I don't hate welfare. I think it is a good thing that is too often abused.
This is welfare. It is not socialism. Thai is my only point.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:09 pm to jptiger2009
Please detail how this is socialism, proggie.
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