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re: LSU 2019-2020 HOOPS roster

Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:48 am to
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:48 am to
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The big question for next years team is depth. Our 5-6 are going to be great. The question is how good will our 7-9 be.

I have to disagree with this. This past season our top line talent (1-6) was obviously really good and was better than what we’ll have this season. 7-8 (Williams & Days) while talented, could be a bit inconsistent, which should improve this year. But that’s where it ended last year.

This year, based on just assumed talent alone, this team could easily run 10 guys out there without much drop off. Collectively the talent won’t be to the level of this past year’s team, but it will be deeper, and that is counting Graves, who I believe showed he can give you at least 5-8 quality minutes per game on both sides of the ball. And if Wade can pull a rabbit out of his hat in the form of a transfer or new signee, they might even go 11 deep.

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Wade will have this team dancing again next year, trust me.

I definitely agree with this. At face value, idk that this team is necessarily a 2nd weekend team; but could maybe shape up into one. But with great coaching, they should definitely be a top 5–6 SEC team and in the tournament again next year. From there, it just will depend on how the matchup falls as to how far they go.

Overall though, the biggest thing I’ll be looking for from Wade this season is to see if he can get this team to buy in more on the defensive end from season tip to end and become a top 25 defensive unit. He showed his first season that he can take a subpar talented team and still make them good on the offensive side of the ball. I think the key this year is to become a good to elite defensive team as well.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30099 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 10:48 am to
If Watford signs he’s starting. He’s not coming off the bench
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3324 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:43 pm to
Man, a soph Javonte will be a clear upgrade (in all facets of the game) over Tremont. People seem to forget he was 3 time poy in la, and Calipari (probably) initiated a smear campaign against Wade cuz he "outrecruited" him to get him to br.
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6459 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:45 pm to
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I have to disagree with this. This past season our top line talent (1-6) was obviously really good and was better than what we’ll have this season. 7-8 (Williams & Days) while talented, could be a bit inconsistent, which should improve this year. But that’s where it ended last year.

This year, based on just assumed talent alone, this team could easily run 10 guys out there without much drop off. Collectively the talent won’t be to the level of this past year’s team, but it will be deeper, and that is counting Graves, who I believe showed he can give you at least 5-8 quality minutes per game on both sides of the ball. And if Wade can pull a rabbit out of his hat in the form of a transfer or new signee, they might even go 11 deep.


Yeah, i see what your saying with the depth. I just think we are going into this year with more question marks at depth. Last year you were bringing in recruits that were highly rated and we knew we were deep off talent alone. This year we return 5-6 players that we know we can depend on and are great players.

However, after the 6th player, we will be relying on guys that haven't really made a name for themselves or they aren't highly recruited. (Hyatt, Cooper, Bishop, Manning, Graves) Not saying they won't be great players, it just leaves a question mark going into next season.
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6459 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:48 pm to
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Man, a soph Javonte will be a clear upgrade (in all facets of the game) over Tremont. People seem to forget he was 3 time poy in la, and Calipari (probably) initiated a smear campaign against Wade cuz he "outrecruited" him to get him to br.


Bud, I know Waters made some bonehead plays at time, but he single-handedly won us games. Will Smart be a great player? Absolutely. Will he be a clear upgrade? Negative.

Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9670 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:01 pm to
Smart and Waters are very different types of point guards.

LSU was only 8 deep last year. That’s not much depth, but that was a talented 1-8.
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6459 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:10 pm to
I'll give my opinion on the roster next year. I'll assume that Watford commits to the good Tigers tomorrow and all players return with the exception of Naz and Waters.

1. Smart
2. Mays
3. Taylor
4. Watford
5. Williams
6. Bench - Days
7. Bench - Manning
8. Bench - Bishop
9. Bench - Hyatt
10. Bench - Cooper
11. Bench - Graves
12. Bench - Transfer (Hopefully PF/C)
13. Bench - Transfer (Redshirt Player)
14. Walkon - Reese
15. Walkon - New Player

The point guard position is pretty interesting to me. Smart will obviously be your starter, however they will have to depend on Bishop for a big back up role. This will allow Mays to stay at the 2 guard, where he is better imo. Last year we had the luxury of having 3 really good point guards. Bishop will have some big shoes to fill.

I think Mays will play a ton of minutes next year. We don't really have a true SG on the roster outside of Mays. If Mays were to get into foul trouble, you would probably be looking at Manning, Hyatt, Graves, & Bishop to fill that role. I'm really looking forward to seeing what role Graves will play. I think he can serve as the back up to Mays, time will tell.

Our team will be loaded with really good wing type players. I think Wade will run something similar to what he did at VCU. At the 3 position we're pretty deep. I think Taylor will start the year, but i have heard from many people that Manning could come in and start right away. Behind Manning and Taylor, you have Hyatt that could server as your 3 in a big line up.

Lastly, are our bigs down low. Watford committing to us tomorrow will be absolutely critical to the success of our team next year. A combination of Watford, Williams, Days, and Cooper is pretty good. I really like the Watford and Williams combination. Those two players can really run up and down the court and i look for Wade to do just that when they are in the lineup together. I also like the Watford and Days combination as Days will open the paint up for Watford down low. Days is probably one of the best "big" shooters in the SEC.

For the last two positions, i expect Wade to find a grad transfer to fill a PF/C slot and possibly a redshirt pg/sg to offer depth during practices this year.

I think we have something special in Will Wade. This next season should be a lot of fun boys.
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1815 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:51 am to
Hyatt was a top 100 kid that reclassified a year early to come here and redshirt I believe because of a knee injury.

So this is truly his freshman year but he was a big time prospect. I don’t think people realize how talented he is because he was basically unranked due to the reclassifying.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9307 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:56 am to
My main concern with next year’s team is height.

Our bigs assuming we get Watford are:

6’6 - Williams
6’7 - Days
6’9 - cooper (skinny)
6’9 - Watford (not a leaper)

We aren’t gonna have a pair of giants like NAZ and KBW to bang with the big boys.

Not saying our guys won’t get it done, just saying we won’t have the size advantages that we had this past year.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3324 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 10:43 am to
We can disagree now, but I think once you see a more experienced javonte, and with a chip on his shoulder, you will see he's an upgrade over tremont. Waters won us some games, but javonte was the primary reason we beat #1 last year as a freshman with waters out.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9670 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:31 pm to
Unless Watford has grown some more he is not 6'9".

I think he's a legit 6'7" to 6'8".
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68681 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:33 pm to
I mean you can take an inch off at least of everyone's listed height
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9670 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:36 pm to
There are always "listed" heights and "actual" heights.

I'm a stickler for actual ones.

Combine heights and weights w/o shoes

Tremont 5'9" 1/2 172 lbs. (Listed 5'11")

Naz 6'8" 3/4 255 lbs. (Listed 6'10") Naz also had highest body fat % of any combine participant. Interesting.

Grant Williams actual height only 6'5" 3/4. Schofield only 6'4".

Thread hijack over.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28753 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

We can disagree now, but I think once you see a more experienced javonte, and with a chip on his shoulder, you will see he's an upgrade over tremont. Waters won us some games, but javonte was the primary reason we beat #1 last year as a freshman with waters out.


Smart is a tremendous scorer and has the guts to be a big time player. I think LSU will be ok with him at PG, but it will be a different approach. Waters was the BIGGEST reason LSU was such an efficient offensive team over the last two years. To a large degree Wade just put the game in his hands and allowed him to create (both for himself and teammates). Smart, for as talented as he is, is a scorer first and foremost. Creating for teammates is his second option.

The question will be will LSU have an offense with good ball movement? Or will it be 5 guys looking for their shot?

I do, however, think Smart can be a better OVERALL defender than Waters. Waters was a pest and was great at creating steals and jumping passing lanes. He also gambled a lot for those TO's and on many occasions gave guys open looks when he missed on the TO. Smart as the size and, more importantly, the attitude to be a great defender. He may not force as many steals as Waters, but he gives you more ability to switch than Waters.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10602 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Smart
Mays
Taylor
Days
Williams



Gonna get killed inside with that lineup...not enough size
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12290 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 1:09 pm to
Naz Reid and Tremont Waters are the only two that aren't coming back.

Smart announced he was returning and it will not be long before the others do the same. We will be fine next year fellas
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9670 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:20 pm to
Need a big (at least 6-8) that can defend and rebound IMO.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3324 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:21 pm to
Smart being a better defender than Waters is a major factor in him being an upgrade. Again, this kid was 3 time poy and could have signed with anyone.Common sense tells you he will be better than he was as a freshman, especially going through the draft process recently. With Watford, we will be as good or better this year as last, and I can't wait for tipoff.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12290 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

We aren’t gonna have a pair of giants like NAZ and KBW to bang with the big boys.

Not saying our guys won’t get it done, just saying we won’t have the size advantages that we had this past year.


This is not really as important as it used to be.

Tallest Players, Past National Champions
2017-18 Villanova 6'9"
2016-17: UNC 6'10"
2015-16: Villanova 6'11"
2013-14: UConn 6'10"
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68681 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

This is not really as important as it used to be.

Tallest Players, Past National Champions
2017-18 Villanova 6'9"
2016-17: UNC 6'10"
2015-16: Villanova 6'11"
2013-14: UConn 6'10"


That UNC team had a 7 foot center, blocked 2.3 shots per game in only 16 minutes per game. In fact they had a lot of tall guys on that team overall.

But the biggest thing here is shooting, those teams were at least competent from 3, or great even. We kind of stunk there last season.
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