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re: For those who are pro choice: At what point do you feel a fetus becomes a human being?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:23 am to mouton
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:23 am to mouton
There was never a period without life. This whole “life begins” thing denies the basic and incontrovertible fact that life is passed on, it doesn’t end or begin at any point in the reproductive process.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:23 am to JuiceTerry
quote:
Do hardcore anti-abortionists believe Plan B is abortion?
I don't
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:26 am to JuiceTerry
quote:
OK What's the difference?
As I understand them, Plan B options interrupt or prevent ovulation, so no pregnancy ever occurs.
Abortion Pills are designed to end pregnancies out to 8 or 10 weeks.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:26 am to ShortyRob
quote:I think if I had to take a side about it, I would believe it is exactly the same thing
I don't
I just can't answer where the line is drawn
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:27 am to Vecchio Cane
quote:I believe this is correct. The latter sometimes being referred to as Plan C
As I understand them, Plan B options interrupt or prevent ovulation, so no pregnancy ever occurs.
Abortion Pills are designed to end pregnancies out to 8 or 10 weeks.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:27 am to Demshoes
Just as much as any other citizen “deserves” it.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:28 am to JuiceTerry
quote:Well, plan B prevents implanatation of a fertilized egg.
I think if I had to take a side about it, I would believe it is exactly the same thing
I just can't answer where the line is drawn
But, somewhere between 30 and 50% of all fertilized eggs never implant anyway.
Hence, from my perspective, while it's probably technically true to consider the fertilization "conception", I tend to take the view that conception occurs when it implants.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:29 am to JuiceTerry
Not if it is taken the next day without knowledge of whether or not there is a life within the womb. If there is a life and it’s known prior, then it is murder. Pure and simple.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:30 am to jnethe1
quote:Well, Plan B can't be taken at the point one would know they're pregnant. I mean, I suppose you could physically take it, but that's not what plan B is for
Not if it is taken the next day without knowledge of whether or not there is a life within the womb. If there is a life and it’s known prior, then it is murder. Pure and simple.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:31 am to jimbeam
My only point is that it seems to me a lot of pro-lifers only care about life up to the point a child is born and are not so much concerned about the quality of life after birth, which in too many cases sucks for these innocent kids born into terrible situations.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:31 am to Vecchio Cane
quote:Huh, interesting
As I understand them, Plan B options interrupt or prevent ovulation, so no pregnancy ever occurs.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:32 am to JuiceTerry
quote:Oh, I misread.
As I understand them, Plan B options interrupt or prevent ovulation, so no pregnancy ever occurs.
It doesn't prevent ovulation.
Prevents IMPLANTation
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:32 am to JuiceTerry
quote:
I don't have an answer and I'm pretty much agnostic about abortion
How can you possibly not have an answer. You either believe it is a human at some point during pregnancy or you believe it is not a human until birth.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:32 am to TBoy
quote:
There was never a period without life. This whole “life begins” thing denies the basic and incontrovertible fact that life is passed on, it doesn’t end or begin at any point in the reproductive process.
What sort of New Age hippie horse-zhit is this?
Of course there is a beginning and end to life as we know it and this kind of semantic bullzhit is WAYYY above YOUR pay grade, moron...
If you have the courage of your convictions then you would have no trouble throwing your azz in front of the short-bus that drops you off at home every day....
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:33 am to TBoy
quote:
There was never a period without life. This whole “life begins” thing denies the basic and incontrovertible fact that life is passed on, it doesn’t end or begin at any point in the reproductive process.
What?!?!?
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 10:34 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:34 am to mouton
quote:Right, but as I said, I don't know at what point it is "human"
How can you possibly not have an answer. You either believe it is a human at some point during pregnancy or you believe it is not a human until birth.
What's your take?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:37 am to ShortyRob
I know, I’m saying that if knowledge of life is known, any attempt to “abort” that life is murder. Whether it’s plan b or an abortion clinic.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:39 am to JuiceTerry
quote:
Right, but as I said, I don't know at what point it is "human"
You know it is human once it is born I assume? So you just don't know if it human at any point prior to birth? Really?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:42 am to JuiceTerry
Since you are being a blatantly dishonest coward I will try another question. Do you feel there should be any limitations on abortion? Should a woman have the choice to terminate the pregnancy(assuming her life is not in danger) when the fetus/baby is viable outside the womb? Her body her choice correct?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:44 am to mouton
Jesus Christ, man, I said I don't know "at what point"
Of course it's frickin human
Like I said, what's your take?
Of course it's frickin human
Like I said, what's your take?
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