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Louisiana Senator and anti-vaxer
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:38 am
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:38 am
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:39 am to jptiger2009
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Sen. John Milkovich claimed "autism did not exist" when he was growing up, and that "tissue from aborted babies is now used in vaccines."
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:41 am to jptiger2009
Milkovich has never been the brightest bulb. Almost guaranteed he posts here.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:42 am to jptiger2009
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Sen. John Milkovich, a Keithville Democrat, assailed vaccines Monday on the Senate floor as unsafe, repeating claims that studies have discredited.
I have found our problem.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:46 am to CoachChappy
Jesus, 3 posts in...
For the record, the political affiliation for anti-vaxers is mixed. At 1st, it was the left pushing it. Now, it's the alt-right to protect religious liberties.
For the record, the political affiliation for anti-vaxers is mixed. At 1st, it was the left pushing it. Now, it's the alt-right to protect religious liberties.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 11:48 am
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:56 am to jptiger2009
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For the record, the political affiliation for anti-vaxers is mixed. At 1st, it was the left pushing it. Now, it's the alt-right to protect religious liberties.
The worst part is people call them "anti" vaccinations. This is mostly false. Most just want proper safety testing and cleaner vaccines w/out the toxic adjuvants and preservatives.
Calling people something they are not is not the best way to proceed on this issue.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:57 am to BlackAdam
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Milkovich has never been the brightest bulb. Almost guaranteed he posts here.
You know, that leaves a lot of ways to be interpreted.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:01 pm to notsince98
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The worst part is people call them "anti" vaccinations. This is mostly false. Most just want proper safety testing and cleaner vaccines w/out the toxic adjuvants and preservatives.
Calling people something they are not is not the best way to proceed on this issue.
He cited long debunked studies linking vaccines to autism on the Senate floor. He is a nimrod.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:02 pm to CoachChappy
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I have found our problem.
He may be a Democrat, but he is the Southern Baptists' puppet. Will Hall says jump and Milkovich asks how high.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:08 pm to BlackAdam
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He cited long debunked studies linking vaccines to autism on the Senate floor. He is a nimrod.
Well, there has been smoke to that issue before. CDC got caught burying studies that showed some minor correlation. Shortly after, mercury was removed from MMR. Coincidence?
Now also take a look at recent studies showing links between aluminum toxicity (aluminum is a highly potent neurotoxin) and many issues like alzheimers, autism, etc. Many vaccines have aluminum in their adjuvants to invoke immune system responses. This is where the attention needs to be placed by all sides. There is a lot of evidence pointing to this being a problem.
Instead of looking at modern data, people like to fall back on MSM stories (yeah, the MSM was honest back then, right?) trying to paint anyone questioning the issue as crazy conspiracy theorists.
This doesn't even get into vaccination schedules where children are given multiple vaccines at once when there has been ZERO studies on the safety of doing such a thing.
This whole topic needs to be taken seriously by everyone. If we all work together, we can probably find a way to make safe and clean vaccines with much less risk than the current batches.
And if you think any of this is hyperbole, I'd highly suggest reading up about "science day" at Merck's ongoing trial. That should be enough to get anyone to take the topic seriously.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:15 pm to notsince98
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Now also take a look at recent studies showing links between aluminum toxicity
more cases can be linked to deodorant usage
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If we all work together, we can probably find a way to make safe and clean vaccines with much less risk than the current batches
I agree. Quit attaching useless information to vaccines.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:18 pm to notsince98
To be honest, this is a serious issue. I'll agree with you on that.
The misinformation out there is the biggest issue.
The extremely low percentage of children who die from vaccinations should not be considered an anomaly and covered up. The risks of vaccinations are out there. What else do you need?
The misinformation out there is the biggest issue.
The extremely low percentage of children who die from vaccinations should not be considered an anomaly and covered up. The risks of vaccinations are out there. What else do you need?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:27 pm to jptiger2009
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Now, it's the alt-right to protect religious liberties.
Sounds like you're just pulling things out of your arse, now.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 12:30 pm to jptiger2009
He is an idiot.
That said I don't remember measles being that deadly when I was a kid. I got the Chicken Pox and the Mumps but never got the measles although many in my school did. I don't remember anybody dying of it. I guess we got vaccinated somewhere along the line.
That said I don't remember measles being that deadly when I was a kid. I got the Chicken Pox and the Mumps but never got the measles although many in my school did. I don't remember anybody dying of it. I guess we got vaccinated somewhere along the line.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:08 pm to BugAC
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Sounds like you're just pulling things out of your arse, now.
He’s not wrong about that. Alex Jones is very big on anti-vaccination. Specifically he wants people to be aware of the risks, push for more studies, more testing, more information on vaccines. Vaccines are highly unregulated, which is absurd considering it’s something everyone puts in their body
A large portion of the push against them is that vaccines shouldn’t be mandated. If there is a legal precedent to force people to take something into their body that is deemed “good for them” by medical boards, there’s a lot of risk for corruption
ETA: I like Alex Jones, but his vaccination stuff is one thing I disagree with him on. I think he goes too hard on them, which encourages people not to use them. I think we need to make changes to vaccines to remove the additives and make them safer and more consistent, but I think people need to take them now as is
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:16 pm to notsince98
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Well, there has been smoke to that issue before. CDC got caught burying studies that showed some minor correlation. Shortly after, mercury was removed from MMR. Coincidence?
Hey dude guess what! Nearly 100% of Americans with cancer use toilet paper daily. Toilet paper must be causing cancer.
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If we all work together, we can probably find a way to make safe and clean vaccines with much less risk than the current batches.
Vaccines are already safe.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:17 pm to notsince98
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Well, there has been smoke to that issue before.
There has not.
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CDC got caught burying studies that showed some minor correlation
This is not true. There has never been shown to be a correlation between vaccines and autism.
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Shortly after, mercury was removed from MMR. Coincidence?
Thimerosal was never in the MMR vaccine, dumbass. Even if it had been, the type of mercury contained within does not bioaccumulate and is in no way harmful at the volume of a vaccine.
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Many vaccines have aluminum in their adjuvants to invoke immune system response
The aluminum levels in vaccines are negligible and also shown not to accumulate in the body.
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Instead of looking at modern data
You mean like every single study that shows there's no link and that you're a dipshit?
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vaccination schedules where children are given multiple vaccines at once when there has been ZERO studies on the safety of doing such a thing.
153,000 results on the safety of vaccine schedules on google scholar, champ.
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This whole topic needs to be taken seriously by everyone
It is - which is why we know definitively that vaccines do not cause autism.
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we can probably find a way to make safe and clean vaccines
We did that in the 60s. You're welcome.
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And if you think any of this is hyperbole
...then you're literate and not a complete dipshit, unlike notsince98.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:19 pm to Upperdecker
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Vaccines are highly unregulated
Vaccines are highly regulated
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A large portion of the push against them is that vaccines shouldn’t be mandated.
From people who don't understand the concept of vaccination or herd immunity.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:24 pm to BamaAtl
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A large portion of the push against them is that vaccines shouldn’t be mandated.
From people who don't understand the concept of vaccination or herd immunity.
I understand both concepts. That doesn’t mean I agree with a legal precedent to force someone to take an injection. That’s a very leftist thing to say you’d rather violate the personal rights of one person bc you believe it’s better for the majority
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:28 pm to Upperdecker
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I understand both concepts.
Then you understand why individuals should be forced to take the vaccines absent any contraindications.
It's a very Republican thing to say you'd rather not give something not harmful to an individual and allow them to possibly kill dozens to hundreds to people just so their feelings aren't hurt.
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