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This is why James Harden is the MVP

Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:36 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27327 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:36 pm


Giannis is at about 540 total points combined offense and defense

Harden is at about 670 total points combined offense and defense


Harden is clearly creates the most value for a team, and shows his offensive contribution is way more valuable than Giannis’ defensive contribution.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171080 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:37 pm to
That's an incredible ball hog stat.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83599 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:41 pm to
Lebron was better at defense than Harden this year?


This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59709 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:42 pm to
I saw Gina and the bucks played the weakest SOS of any team in the nba in 6 seasons. But those east coast media guys finally have a player worth voting for so you had better believe they will. they are so used to being beaten down by the BBW that this is their chance to show that they have some legitimacy as a conference.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36524 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:43 pm to
Giannis 4 MVP
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7227 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85146 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:50 pm to
I can live with this. The same website says LeBron is substantially better than Jordan and Kareem...

Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19861 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:18 pm to
He’ll choke in playoffs
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:48 pm to
Jokic deserves more respect
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65508 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:51 pm to
Idk why so much hate. Truly incredible graphic
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:22 pm to
Not looking good for hardwn. Votes in so far are 23 for Giannis 4 for Hardwn.





Also, Luka up 17-0 over Trae.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 9:15 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:28 am to
Wow, Collin Sexton sucks balls on defense
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25859 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 4:28 am to
quote:

PrimeTime Money
this is a dumb skewed graphic...
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57440 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:16 am to
So Giannis saves FIVE times as many defensive points and Harden creates twice as many offensive points (which just means he shoots more) and this proves Harden is better somehow?

I mean, Harden’s obviously the best player to ever play but he’s not the best player of this generation
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 8:18 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111169 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:35 am to
quote:

This is why James Harden is the MVP

So to confirm, for you to remain consistent, last season when Harden won it I'm guessing you were saying he should not have won it and Lebron should have then.

Did you do that to remain consistent with TPA? Or nah?


And in 2017 when Westbrook won it over Harden, did you think that was correct or did you think Harden should have won it? I'll remind you that Westbrook finished with 264 more TPA than Harden.


So, were you consistent or since Harden led this season, you decided THIS season is the 1st time it should go solely based on TPA?
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10449 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:34 am to
Karl-Anthony Towns saves more points on D than Harden. Also, KAT, Harden and LeBron all rate more highly than Kawhi on D.

This chart is suspect.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 11:25 am to
quote:

This is why James Harden is the MVP


Despite that Greek Freak's an eminently superior defender and submitted the best season of his career correlating to the Bucks achieving the league's best record and HC advantage throughout, the most dominant 2-way player in the game today, it's Harden Blowhards like OP that turn the average yet knowledgeable basketball fan off about Harden with nonsense like this.

Nevertheless, you could make good arguments on both sides, Harden enjoyed a truly extraordinary season this year and improved as a defender, Greek Freak did Greek Freak things at the highest level of his career to this point. Is what it is.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111169 posts
Posted on 4/12/19 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Harden is clearly creates the most value for a team
Would you agree that Russ clearly created more value for his team 2 seasons ago than Harden?


Please note, I didn't ask whether you were "ok" with Russ winning, that's not the question.
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