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re: Church burnings in france

Posted on 3/21/19 at 11:06 am to
Posted by LSUbest
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 11:06 am to
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Dude, what......
Please tell me you’re joking
Link to statistics??


She's just a lying troll, not worth a reply.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 11:08 am to
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And it's why media is viewed with such disdain. The make victims out of the perps. It is a transparent narrative. It is justifiably discrediting of the media.
Nah, the media isn’t responsible for the audience’s lack of reason. Just look at this thread. In no way have I justified violent acts committed by anyone, nor have I even implied that Muslims in France do not commit violent acts at a rate higher than that of Christians in France, yes the majority of the boiz in this thread are convinced that I have. That’s on them, not me.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 11:09 am to
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Want to know how I know you are lying? France doesn't track religious belief.
Exactly why I presented the numbers in this way
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66% of the people in France are Christian (an additional 20ish% are secular white)
These are estimates universally accepted as reasonable.

I’m not making this up, but nice try.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 11:10 am to
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Your math doesn’t address the fact that Muslims are far more likely than any other religious group to participate in violence against people of other religions.
Except for the 20 or so times I’ve mentioned exactly the disparity in such a likelihood that would have to exist for my assertion to not be true. Go ahead, out with it.
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 11:12 am
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 11:11 am to
Been a troll since day 1. She talks in circles. That's it.
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 11:18 am
Posted by Vestigial Morgan
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 11:38 am to
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In a vacuum, the average Muslim is, therefore, more than 100x as likely to be attacked by a Christian/white person than a Christian/white person is to be attacked by a Muslim. 


What the h e double hockey sticks are you talking about?? "100x more likely"....this is perfect spot for " not how any of this works" meme. If you put 100m french christians in a box along with 1m french muslims inthe same box...you would have a 100x greater chance of selecting a french christian...not a 100x greater chance of that christian assaulting the muslim (or vise versa) what if I said you are swimming with 10000 manatees and 1 bull shark...therefore you obviously will be bitten by the manatees. On paper with no other data..sure but in reality dont pet the shark
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 11:41 am to
It’s more dangerous than being aULM fan on
The More Sports Board.
Posted by CivilTiger83
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 12:00 pm to
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These are estimates universally accepted as reasonable. I’m not making this up, but nice try.


60% of people in France identify as Catholics based on some surveys (real number is unknown). Surveys have also shown that only 27% of French citizens believe in the existence of god.

Guess how many of those 60% Catholic regularly attend mass? … 4%

It is overwhelmingly secular and is increasingly hostile to Christianity. I know people who were missionaries there... the authorities are hostile to every religious belief outside of atheism.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 12:11 pm to
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In no way have I justified violent acts committed by anyone
That is part of your problem.
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the audience’s lack of reason
Reason?
Reason holds that violence begets violence.

Reason holds Muslims are extremely fortunate the targets of their savagery are not of their own 12th century mentality. Unfortunately Tamerlane's approach is nearly the only thing they understand. Unsettling as it maybe, until terror is returned directly to the perps and in palpable excess to that which they are exacting on western targets, this stuff will continue.

We view terrorist enabling friends and family members as if they should be unassailable, even coddled. It is an extraordinarily naive and predictably feckless approach.

During the Reagan years the Russians got it about right. IIRC Islamic groups were having a field day kidnapping westerners. One Lebanese group decided to try it's luck taking a Russian official hostage. The kidnappers issued demands while threatening to torture or kill their hostage. They were identified in the process.

In response, Russian operatives kidnapped several members of the ringleader's family. The Islamists were given a short time to release their hostage. As they exceeded their deadline while mulling over options, they received a package. In it was one of the leader's father's testicles and a note again suggesting they release their Russian hostage. He was promptly released.

Brutal? Sure.
Then again, to this day you don't see French-style Islamist crap going down in Russia where terrorists' families may be held accountable.

Seems in the end, "reasonable" is the approach which yields success.
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 12:53 pm to
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It is overwhelmingly secular and is increasingly hostile to Christianity. I know people who were missionaries there... the authorities are hostile to every religious belief outside of atheism.
Thus bolstering my point.
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