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re: I don’t get dripping $1000’s on kid’s travel ball in hopes of a scholarship
Posted on 3/19/19 at 4:29 pm to theantiquetiger
Posted on 3/19/19 at 4:29 pm to theantiquetiger
As I’m a travel baseball coach, I’ll speak from our side since the unathletic masses don’t get it and I’m sure I’ll be “wrong” in some way shape or form.
Majority of people elect to play travel ball because of competition. I could take my team and let them play in a local YMCA league, win every game 25-0, get no better at the game, hear other unathletic parents kids complain about losing to us, which in return makes the whole thing miserable for everyone.
If your kid is better than the typical ymca player and can afford to travel, why does it matter?
Out of the 12 I coach, 2-3 of them will probably get scholarships which is great. They love the game, the parents love the game, and it’s a win win for everyone. If I take those same 2-3 kids and stick them in ymca, what does it do for them? 90% of those kids can’t even hold a bat correctly much less play at an advanced level.
On the flip side, I do realize some parents do it for social status or think their kid is the next Mike Trout. To each their own, and if they want to blow their money, then let them. If they’re too stupid to realize it, that’s on them.
Majority of people elect to play travel ball because of competition. I could take my team and let them play in a local YMCA league, win every game 25-0, get no better at the game, hear other unathletic parents kids complain about losing to us, which in return makes the whole thing miserable for everyone.
If your kid is better than the typical ymca player and can afford to travel, why does it matter?
Out of the 12 I coach, 2-3 of them will probably get scholarships which is great. They love the game, the parents love the game, and it’s a win win for everyone. If I take those same 2-3 kids and stick them in ymca, what does it do for them? 90% of those kids can’t even hold a bat correctly much less play at an advanced level.
On the flip side, I do realize some parents do it for social status or think their kid is the next Mike Trout. To each their own, and if they want to blow their money, then let them. If they’re too stupid to realize it, that’s on them.
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 4:34 pm to theantiquetiger
Honestly, it's not even the money thing to me. It's the constant "oh my kid's gonna get a scholarship" thing. They really believe that.
My two daughters are on a competition dance team for their studio. We probably spend close to $2,000 per kid per year just for the team, between additional classes, costumes, choreography fees, and competition entry fees. It's 2-3 hours a week of practice, on average, and the competitions are all one day competitions, 4 a year. So I give up 4 saturdays a year. 3 of them are local and one is in Biloxi, so it's not far.
They enjoy it. These competitions are long days and while I enjoy watching my children perform, having to watch the 70 or so other groups is very meh to me. Seeing them happy makes it very easy for me to write the check. And if they told me tomorrow they were done, I would be perfectly fine with that.
My oldest is going out for her school's cheer team this upcoming year, and we have told her that if she makes the team, her competition days are done.
My two daughters are on a competition dance team for their studio. We probably spend close to $2,000 per kid per year just for the team, between additional classes, costumes, choreography fees, and competition entry fees. It's 2-3 hours a week of practice, on average, and the competitions are all one day competitions, 4 a year. So I give up 4 saturdays a year. 3 of them are local and one is in Biloxi, so it's not far.
They enjoy it. These competitions are long days and while I enjoy watching my children perform, having to watch the 70 or so other groups is very meh to me. Seeing them happy makes it very easy for me to write the check. And if they told me tomorrow they were done, I would be perfectly fine with that.
My oldest is going out for her school's cheer team this upcoming year, and we have told her that if she makes the team, her competition days are done.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 4:44 pm to theantiquetiger
I dated a divorced nurse years ago whose kid played year round travel ball. I never could've comprehended the constant planning, correspondence, expense, etc that some parents commit their lives to with it
I mean, bravo if its a family affair and everybody's happy. But dating somebody who you never see on the wknds and talks ball 24/7.. no thanks
I mean, bravo if its a family affair and everybody's happy. But dating somebody who you never see on the wknds and talks ball 24/7.. no thanks
Posted on 3/19/19 at 4:54 pm to theantiquetiger
The parent would be better off sticking that money in a high yield savings account
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 3/19/19 at 4:55 pm to theantiquetiger
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For nearly 10 years now, he has dropped $1000’s of dollars a year, on training, traveling, etc.
1) If these parents legitimately care about a college scholarship then they better hope the kid gets one for baseball because he’s not going to get one through academic means based on the weak cognitive genes of his parents who don’t understand how a mutual fund works
2) Most parents use the idea of a scholarship to justify living vicariously through their children. If they actually cared about their kid they’d promote a broad range of activities to prepare them for life outside of the home, where being well-rounded is valuable and being an average middle infielder isn’t considered a worthwhile skill.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 4:57 pm to theantiquetiger
Take that money, put it in the bank. You will have more than enough to pay for their college.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 5:27 pm to theantiquetiger
I don’t have kids but my feeling is: if your kid can play, they can play. I sure as hell aren’t hiring personal trainers and flying them across the country for camps
Ain’t nothing wrong with telling your kid “No”
Ain’t nothing wrong with telling your kid “No”
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 3/19/19 at 5:42 pm to theantiquetiger
What I don’t get is the extracurricular shite. Having a signing ceremony for 8 year olds and awarding a ring for every damn tournament
Posted on 3/19/19 at 5:43 pm to theantiquetiger
Well that's pretty stupid paying that kind of money on travel ball in hopes of a scholarship, when baseball or softball only give partial scholarships.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 6:05 pm to theantiquetiger
Why dont you ask guys like Bregman and Nola if they regret doing travel ball?
Your right, it's not for everyone and some kids just don't have the God-given talents. There's no shame in that, but there are lessons we can teach kids that some SJW teacher will never be able to offer in the classroom - comroddery, discipline, etc.
Now as it relates to cost, yes it costs money but I always tell parents it's not about whether or not you can afford it... everyone can afford it. It's about whether or not you want to make the sacrifice for your kids to be set up to be successful.
Your right, it's not for everyone and some kids just don't have the God-given talents. There's no shame in that, but there are lessons we can teach kids that some SJW teacher will never be able to offer in the classroom - comroddery, discipline, etc.
Now as it relates to cost, yes it costs money but I always tell parents it's not about whether or not you can afford it... everyone can afford it. It's about whether or not you want to make the sacrifice for your kids to be set up to be successful.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 6:19 pm to theantiquetiger
Instead they could take their daughter to Italy and stay in a shitty hostel. Now, there's a plan!
Posted on 3/19/19 at 6:22 pm to theantiquetiger
Athletics is generally fools gold for most parents. Most people would be better served sending their kids to computer camp, for example.
If your kid is a great athlete sports can be wonderful, but most parents overestimate their kids abilities.
If your kid is a great athlete sports can be wonderful, but most parents overestimate their kids abilities.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 6:30 pm to theantiquetiger
I hate that American youth sports have gotten to the point where talented kids have largely moved away from organic local leagues.
And for the record, I played AAU basketball and high level (AJGA and similar - talk about expensive) junior golf all through high school, but there’s a lot to be said beyond just sports about playing neighborhood leagues for as long as you can.
And for the record, I played AAU basketball and high level (AJGA and similar - talk about expensive) junior golf all through high school, but there’s a lot to be said beyond just sports about playing neighborhood leagues for as long as you can.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 6:35 pm to theantiquetiger
I've done it for 3 years now and do enjoy it. It's quality time with my daughter that we would never get if we didnt have sports in common. It's allowed us to travel to places we'd never go if our own choice. We do typically add some days on each end to make a vacation out of it.
It's taught her a sense of hard work, dedication and selflessness she wouldn't get if she was just being a kid. I completely recognize that the money spent could provide for 2 educations.
There's also a sense of pride watching your child excel at something due to a little bit of God given talent and alot of hard work.
It's taught her a sense of hard work, dedication and selflessness she wouldn't get if she was just being a kid. I completely recognize that the money spent could provide for 2 educations.
There's also a sense of pride watching your child excel at something due to a little bit of God given talent and alot of hard work.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 6:48 pm to theantiquetiger
Does he have any other kids? Have they been dragged around to ballparks their whole childhood so missy can get a scholarship in a sport that she’ll never earn a paycheck from?
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 3/19/19 at 7:22 pm to theantiquetiger
I get it for the competition, coaching, and likemindedness amongst the players and parents.
Recreational youth sports can be a shite show if you get hooked in with the wrong bunch, and poor coaching mixed with team politics can ruin the fun quickly. We have not done travel or club ball but we considered it strongly after a handful of bad experiences playing with a mixed bag of kids from school and their retarded parents.
Recreational youth sports can be a shite show if you get hooked in with the wrong bunch, and poor coaching mixed with team politics can ruin the fun quickly. We have not done travel or club ball but we considered it strongly after a handful of bad experiences playing with a mixed bag of kids from school and their retarded parents.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 7:29 pm to theantiquetiger
Maybe his kid just enjoyed it, so he was willing to sacrifice his money and time for the kid to do something they enjoyed and also positively affected their life (scholarship, etc.). Insane logic, but maybe it's possible.
I'd never push my kid and travel ball has gotten absurd, but it's possible they love it and it's not hurting anything. I loved playing ball year round.
I'd never push my kid and travel ball has gotten absurd, but it's possible they love it and it's not hurting anything. I loved playing ball year round.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 7:31 pm to theantiquetiger
Seems like he could have saved all that money, stayed home and used it to help pay her college.
And he could have also stopped her from becoming a lesbian.
And he could have also stopped her from becoming a lesbian.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 7:40 pm to theantiquetiger
95% of travel ball parents are either delusional or just stupid.
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