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"Your guns won't be able to take on military tanks and drones"
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:46 pm
Leftists and gun haters love to trot this line out whenver someone defends the 2nd amendment saying one of the reasons for the 2A is so the people can defend themselves from a tyrannical government.
Here is my question.
Say a tyrant became president and ordered the military to attack innocent citizens. For the sake of this example lets say the president ordered the military to attack citizens who refused to give up their guns in a gun grab.
How many military would actually obey the order? And how many military would defect and join the rebellion instead?
This always seems to be the flaw in the leftist logic of "your guns cant stand up to the military, tanks and drones". They assume that the military would blindly follow such orders.
quote:
"Hah, you say the 2nd amendment is about protection from a tyrannical government, well sorry bro, but your guns won't make a difference against drone missle strikes and tanks"
Here is my question.
Say a tyrant became president and ordered the military to attack innocent citizens. For the sake of this example lets say the president ordered the military to attack citizens who refused to give up their guns in a gun grab.
How many military would actually obey the order? And how many military would defect and join the rebellion instead?
This always seems to be the flaw in the leftist logic of "your guns cant stand up to the military, tanks and drones". They assume that the military would blindly follow such orders.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:47 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
How difficult a time did our soldiers have recently in the Middle East not knowing who was good, who was armed, etc?
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:48 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
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They assume that the military would blindly follow such orders.
That’s all that needs to be said. That and liberals are completely useless dumbasses.
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:48 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
I guess they’ll missle strike my house in the middle of a New Jersey township and kill all the libs around me.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:48 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
Then why are we still fighting the Taliban after 20 years?
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:48 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
It only makes sense if you assume the government would "win" by killing and alienating millions and millions of people. Like dipshit Swallowell talking about having nukes.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:50 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:
How many military would actually obey the order?
A lot. Tell them their nation is under attack from a threat and they will do just about anything.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:50 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:
Say a tyrant became president and ordered the military to attack innocent citizens.
This will be when our country doesn’t exist anymore...
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:51 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
The military will follow orders. Next question.
Is there any probability that the military will be utilized in this manner? No likelihood that I am aware of.
Can the civil war fetishists on the right wing really win a civil war? No.
Is there any probability that the military will be utilized in this manner? No likelihood that I am aware of.
Can the civil war fetishists on the right wing really win a civil war? No.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:52 pm to Damone
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It only makes sense if you assume the government would "win" by killing and alienating millions and millions of people. Like dip shite Swallowell talking about having nukes.
The whole point of a gun grab is to rule over a disarmed populace but mostly compliant
The problem with striking them with drones or blasting them with tanks is that you are going to either rule over an angry non compliant populace, or a populace that doesn't exist. What good is that?
That's why gun grabs have to be subtle and why tactics like gun shaming and emotional heart string tug appeals to emotion are used to disarm people through the backdoor instead.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:53 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
It's funny Admiral Yamamoto of the Imperial Japanese Navy understood the dangers of attacking the US on the mainland better than some of our own citizens.....a rifle behind every blade of grass
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:53 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
The government would stand exactly a 0% chance of defeating an insurgency in this country and it's got nothing to do with the what type of weapons one side or the other are carrying. Even if 100% of the military obeys the order, which is likely, the government still stands no shot.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:55 pm to TBoy
quote:I'd consider firing on Americans to be an unlawful order.
The military will follow orders. Next question.
*to clarify, it depends on who I'm ordered to fire upon. For example, I wouldn't consider firing on people defending their constitutional rights to be a lawful order. I would fire on those that are seeking to strip them (gun confiscators, etc...).
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:55 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
The government would stand exactly a 0% chance of defeating an insurgency in this country and it's got nothing to do with the what type of weapons one side or the other are carrying. Even if 100% of the military obeys the order, which is likely, the government still stands no shot.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:55 pm to LsuTool
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I guess they’ll missle strike my house in the middle of a New Jersey township and kill all the libs around me.
We appreciate your willingness to take one for the greater good!
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:56 pm to northshorebamaman
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I'd consider firing on Americans to be an unlawful order.
Do you get upset when you hear about police doing it?
Eta: What do you think happened at Waco?
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:57 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
"Shall Not Be Infringed."
The military defends the constitution.
The military defends the constitution.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:57 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:
How many military would actually obey the order? And how many military would defect and join the rebellion instead?
This always seems to be the flaw in the leftist logic of "your guns cant stand up to the military, tanks and drones". They assume that the military would blindly follow such orders.
They blindly follow orders when they go to other countries.. why wouldn't they here?
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:58 pm to TBoy
I mean I'm sorry bro, that's just how it would work. The economy would collapse in a matter of weeks and the sitting president would be impeached. It's not like the insurgents would be going up against the 82nd airborne in pitched battles in the streets. I mean some of them might but they'd die pretty quick. Nah, it would be a war of murder and kidnap and terrorism. It would be filthy as frick and the populace would turn against the government for turning their streets into a war zone. Most people would rather just live with a few nut jobs with ARs than tanks rolling down the streets and bombs going off in their neighborhoods.
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