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re: New Zealand government now engaging in widespread internet censorship campaign.

Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:48 pm to
Your thinking is scattered and disorganized. Christians don’t “ fight back “ by slaughtering innocent Muslims. Show me ANY tenet of Christianity that advises us to slaughter innocent Muslims. It does not exist. How the hell do you think you are defending Christianity by obliterating and redefining it into something completely unrecognizable?

The fact that our Cultural elite are in the tank for what Islam is and what it does is an entirely separate discussion. Let’s have THAT discussion, not the one that magically makes murder virtuous.

And blacks ? Jesus man, what Christian Church is it that you are attending? Christian Identity?
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:49 pm to
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And to think leftists championed "free speech" for years while defending so called offensive speech. They have now become the proponents of censorship.



The Left were very smart WRT this notion of "free speech" in that, when they were not in control of the narrative, mass media and in control of academia, they NEEDED to be in favor of "free speech" in order to get their message out.

Now that they control mass media and acadmia, they have no further use for "free speech". In fact, "free speech" is a constraint upon them, now that they control the messaging modalities. As such, they are now against "free speech".

It's very simple and quite logical.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:51 pm to
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consider their absolute willingness to die. They hope and pray for it.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:53 pm to
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watching innocent people die.


Most were probably innocent but that mosque was a hotbed of radicalization and terrorist recruiting, so he probably got some bad guys too.

Kind of like when we drone a wedding party, theres going to be collateral damage.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:56 pm to
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The only reason it isn’t here yet on a widespread scale is that we still have our guns.




without our 2nd amendment the first is gone. look at all the shite in the England you cannot say now publicly. cannot criticize islam/mohammed. what a bunch of cowards and cucks and dhimmis.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:59 pm to
You can't stop the internet, and censoring this only makes it more palatable to those with a genuine interest in what happened.

This is the government version of telling a kid "don't go into the basement". People will look, you can't stop them no matter how hard you try and you can't justify these draconian measures by saying:

It will galvanize White Nationalists and incite violence from them. His weapon had the name of a dead girl killed in Sweden by an Islamic Extremist on the barrel. They are already galvanized just by hearing about this.

It will incite more violence from Muslims. ISIL already has the video as do other extremist groups who have already launched over 450 incidents of terrorism all over the world. Islamist terrorists don't need help, they'll get recruits no matter what we do.

It's too violent to see. They don't think the same thing about brutal beheading videos or when it's Mexican Drug Cartels carving people up with axes. So this excuse doesn't really hold water.

My own theory as to why this is happening is that Western governments fear a more militant white extremist movement because it's very difficult to control. How do you differentiate between pride and extremism? What do you make illegal, can it be illegal for a white person to be proud about their race? This is an extremely volatile subject and it will be interesting to see the reaction, because if the government (especially the American government) is too hamfisted they could have a very real problem of a race war on their hands from a white population that has a severe distrust of their government.

On the other end, it may be because the sensationalist element of technology, but again: You can't actually stop this. I wouldn't be surprised if there's already a movement to post the video in New Zealand to call the bluff of their government. If 10,000 people (let's just use a small portion of the population) shares the video, are you seriously going to try and imprison all of them? What if it was 100,000? Maybe 500,000?

New Zealand's virtue signalling has painted them into a very tight corner and other governments will be watching to see if they can leverage a similar terrorism event to control their population if this is successful.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:19 pm to
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by northshorebamaman


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Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:19 pm to
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Why do you want to watch it so badly? Curiousity? I don’t understand what’s fun or interesting about watching innocent people die.



I'm not planning on watching it, but occasionally I watch horrific videos just to understand that there is evil in the world. We've all seen pictures of Hitler's concentration camps, and they show what a monster that piece of fricking filth was.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:27 pm to
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but that mosque was a hotbed of radicalization


shite just read the islamic trilogy and look back at what mohammed did for his followers. what great examples eh? don't even need a crazy imam in a mosque.

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and terrorist recruiting


oh i would not doubt that either
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:34 pm to
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b. govt is told 'DO SOMETHING'

No. Government springs into action to deny people's rights long before anyone says a thing. They use the media to claim people are demanding no guns, restricted travel and censorship.

They control the media, so they can claim that people are "demanding" whatever they like.
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