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Brisket advice

Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by malvin
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:34 am
I am cooking a brisket for the family for after my daughter and nephew make their first communion. The mass is at 2 Sunday afternoon. My best guess is we will be back home by 4.

I have a 12.5 lb prime brisket from Costco and a primo xl to cook it on. What time would you put it on? What rub would you use? What internal temp would you shoot for? What temp would you try to hold on the pit? Basically, what would you do in this situation. The only brisket I ever cooked was on an electric smoker and it was only ok.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136967 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:43 am to
So you're basically asking "how do I cook a brisket?"

In this case, I would not do a brisket. Stick to ribs or pork shoulder.

You are not going to trim it well. Timing can also be too sporadic.

Coarse salt and pepper all needed for rub. I also recommended smoked paprika and Ancho chili pepper, but not necessary

Smoke for about 5-6 hours, see if you like the crust, wrap in butcher paper, cook until internal of about 190, wrap in towels, place in cooler for 2 hours, then take out and slice

Voila
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6398 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:45 am to
Personally.... salt and fresh coarse ground black pepper for the rub (also like hardcore carnivore Black if you can find it). 1:1 ratio, with a good coating.

For 12.5lbs I’d cook for a minimum of 13-14hrs maybe even 15 at 225-250. The internal temp Is what I go off of. When the temp gets to 202-205 I pull. Put it in an ice chest wrapped for 45min of rest then serve.

After about 5-8 hrs of smoke I wrap with pink butcher paper for the rest of the cook. I leave that on when I transfer to the ice chest.

I use Texas post oak. And when you serve cut against the grain.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 9:47 am
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
13436 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:03 am to
I would rub with salt and pepper and smoke at 225-250 overnight for 6-8 hours. Hopefully it should be around 160-170 degrees. Wrap it in the morning with butcher paper and bake it in your oven or Primo at 300 until it hits 195-200 then pull it and put it in an ice chest wrapped in towels. Go to church and come home to a warm, rested brisket. Slice and serve.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23583 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:17 am to
S+P only and finish it in the oven to be safe. Hell of a time to play around with your first one. Watch videos on how to trim it. Post a pic here after but these rarely go well.
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
4201 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:29 am to
I followed the steps on Franklin's youtube video for my first brisket and pork butt. While I'm quite sure there are better ways, they both turned out well, and were easy to follow.
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8065 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:49 am to
Watch Franklin's video on cooking a brisket, that's how I've done the 3 briskets I've done so far and they've all come out great.

Course salt & pepper
Smoked at 225 degrees until the internal temp is around 165(usually about 7-8 hours).
Pulled it, wrapped in butcher paper, back on the smoker
Taken it off when it hits 205ish internally, wrapped in towels and rested in a cooler for a while.


Since it's your first one and you're trying to hit a specific serve time I'd suggest putting it on the smoker around 10-11pm on Saturday night and get up early Sunday to check it. That'll give you a large window and if it's ready at noonish it'll still be warm if wrapped and left in the cooler until 4pm.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21678 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:53 am to
I'm not familiar with the Primo but do it allow cooking for a long period of time with no tending? I thought it was a charcoal/wood burner. Is it not? If it is, who is going to refill the fuel source?

My advice would be to smoke it to a temp of about 195 and shoot for that to happen around time to leave for mass. Wrap it and put it in a good ice chest until you get back. Should be good to go then.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7538 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:07 pm to
I would plan to start it where it can pulled and put in the ice chest before you leave for mass.

I certainly wouldn’t want it getting close to being done still on the pit while you’re away.

The margin between perfect and beef jerky is pretty thin with a brisket.

I’d probably have it on between midnight and 2:00 AM follow the advice of the guy who said to wrap after 5-6 hours in butcher paper, and rest in ice chest wrapped in towels for 2 hours.

You want the internal to be at 200-203 when you pull it.

Should be perfect and ready to slice when you get home from mass.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 12:08 pm
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14275 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 2:15 pm to
Since no one else seems to be helping, I am going to give you a somewhat different way to cook your brisket.

You brisket is similar to this one.



Trim it well, or not - your preference.



Rub completely with yellow mustard.



If you have a rub you like, cover it completely with rub. If not dust with garlic powder, onion powder and black pepper.



Smoke it at an open air temp of around 225 on your smoker (with oak chunks) for 2-3 hours. It should look like this after 2-3 hours.



After 3 hours, the brisket should be wrapped in foil and finished in the oven at 225. You can add some BBQ sauce to he top if you like. I thought I had a photo of a foil wrapped brisket, but I can't find one. Put the foil wrapped brisket in a pan so if it leaks, it won't mess up your oven. Finish it there for maybe 3-4 hours. When it finishes you will have this much liquid.



You notice, there is very little fat to contend with, because you trimmed most of it away. This liquid is good stuff. If reduced and a little BBQ sauce added, it makes an excellent topping for your brisket.

If finished at 225, the brisket will hit a good internal temp after 3 hours. If your oven is programmable, have it turn off at 3 hours and leave the brisket there until you are ready to serve it. You can check it if your like, but it will be OK.



The next two photos have less fat trimmed away and you can see a strip of fat across the top of the brisket.





Slice across the grain

This brisket will not have a bark, but it will be tender. It will have plenty of smoked flavor and it will be tender.

Most of all, you can leave it in the oven without any attention while you go and enjoy your daughter's first communion.


If this is not clear, I can answer questions this afternoon.







This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6548 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 8:39 pm to
Some good advice in this thread already. The rub I like is:

1/2 Cup kosher salt
1/2 Cup course ground black pepper
1/4 Cup celery seed
1 tsp cayenne (optional)

I am pretty sure that on a primo, the heat rolls up the back side of the grill, so put the point (thick fatty side) towards that end. Make a plan and stick with it. Get a temp dialed in. Once the meat goes on don’t open the lid until it reaches the temp/time you decided on (if you’re looking you’re not cooking).

Have fun with it. Unless you’ve got a family of bbq judges, when they see you pull it out and slice it up, they’ll get excited and like it even if it’s not the best they’ve ever had.
Posted by Crawfish From Arabi
Member since Apr 2017
317 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:58 pm to
Melvin, not bad at all for only your second attempt at brisket. Brisket is the hardest bbq meat to get perfect everytime, and is the measuring stick for most bbq guys. Keep smoking them, and never stop trying to perfect it. You'll get better with each one, and you'll learn a little something different every time you cook one. Good job man, I'm sure your family will enjoy it.
Now to the technicalities. One person in here had the best answer on doneness IMO. It really is all about feel. The brisket is done when it's done, and not by a set internal temperature. Each grade cooks differently, and each brisket is different from each other. As far as pit temp, that's really up to you and your equipment. Every smoker has it's sweet spot, and people have different schedules for cooking. You can cook a brisket low and slow, or hot and fast and they come out great either way. When it comes to wrapping, and when to do it.....again, personal choice. I like paper, and wrapped when the bark and color get to where I want it. Some guys use foil or pans, and some even add stuff to their wrap.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 6:34 am to
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 7:25 am
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