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ATL Fed - 4Q18 GDP Projections fall to 1.4%

Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 1:59 pm
“The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the fourth quarter of 2018 is 1.4 percent on February 21, down from 1.5 percent on February 14. After this morning's advance durable manufacturing report from the U.S. Census Bureau, the nowcast of fourth-quarter real nonresidential equipment investment growth declined from 4.5 percent to 3.9 percent.“

LINK

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:02 pm to
More Fake News

Thanks
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28289 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:04 pm to
Yall keep screaming it but it keeps not happening. When will you learn?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138987 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:05 pm to
This is a weird quarter to forecast due to the government shutdown. Are these economic reports data deficient due the the shutdown?

The New York Fed is predicting 2.23%. LINK And the consensus is between 2.2 and 3.0.

We'll just have to wait for the real numbers from the BEA.

The GDP release will be on the 28th. This is about a month late due to the shutdown.
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:09 pm to
The FRBNY also has their 1Q19 projection at 1.08%
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73403 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:12 pm to
Irishtiger89, why are you so much more pessimistic on economy than most Americans? It is by far the biggest bright spot of trump’s presidency. He consistently polls high on economic approval questions. Economic sentiment is highest since late 90s, early 2000s. Gallup data has financial happiness at highest level in 16 years

Your post history seems to indicate you since 2017 aren’t nearly as positive.

This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 2:14 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:13 pm to
It was her turn
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

The New York Fed is predicting 2.23%
In the final estimate before the advanced release, ATL Fed is much more accurate than the NY Fed, although there is limited data for the NY Fed’s model.

Using that limited data and regressing it on the BEA advances estimate, the below site found that a weighting of 0.842 for ATL’s and 0.119 for NY’s gives an accurate prediction. So if this was the final projection that would result in an estimate of 1.44%.

I bet it will be higher but it needs to be around 3.63% to hit 2.95% (and round up to 3.0%) for the full-year annual change.

An update on the GDP Nowcast models


This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:20 pm to
I think a lot of analysts are pessimistic right now. You can see that pessimism reflected in the markets. The global economy is slowing a lot and most projections are for weaker earnings in 1Q19. All of this has nothing to do with my opinions about our president.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73403 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:22 pm to
The global economy has been slowing for months and months yet American labor market is still churning out robust job reports each month

The stock market is off to best start for year since 1987

We have almost completely clawed back what was lost last year
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138987 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Not only does the Atlanta model produce unbiased forecasts (the average error is close to zero), but it also produces the most accurate prediction with the smallest absolute forecast error of about 0.6% in absolute values.


When I did this analysis of the Atlanta Fed I had a much smaller data set and came up with a 0.68% error.

Thanks for that link BTW.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133873 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

You can see that pessimism reflected in the markets.
The U.S. stock market is up almost 10% since January 1. What pessimistic markets are you referring to?
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

The GDPNow model estimate


About as accurate as climate change models.

No thanks.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

The U.S. stock market is up almost 10% since January 1


This


Plus, if/when the China deal goes through, shite will really be poppin
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

The global economy has been slowing for months and months yet American labor market is still churning out robust job reports each month


Unemployment is a lagging indicator though.

I am still relatively bullish on the economy overall. The only serious soft spot in housing, and I think other things can offset so that we don't dip into a recession. Or its a mild recession. I am not an economist by trade though, but i do follow it closely.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73403 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:33 pm to
I don’t see a recession any time soon. Maybe towards end of 2020 or 2021

Housing is declining but I don’t think that is totally a bad thing. Needs to let off some steam

A declining housing market is a boon for millennials though....makes it more affordable to buy them
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:36 pm to
Industrial production and retail sales aren’t looking great right now
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:39 pm to
The worry is that some international events (slowdown in china; brexit) infect us. Its very possible, but who knows.

quote:

A declining housing market is a boon for millennials though....makes it more affordable to buy them


I personally think its mostly due to interest rates increasing and I doubt it helps millenials that much.
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:40 pm to
Go look at the bond markets
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133873 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 2:50 pm to
What about the bond markets? Bond prices are higher now than they were a year ago.

Are you confused?
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