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OK Libs, please have the stones to go on record:

Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:28 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:28 am
After seeing the NPC response of "illegal-immigrants commit crimes at a lesser rate than American citizens" for the millionth time, I want you all to riddle me this:

Let's say the above statement is true (it is not), does that mean the EXTRA rapes, assaults and murders being committed by people WHO AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE is OK with you if it means these people get to invade and stay?

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12995 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:31 am to
If the people being murdered are native born whites, of course liberals are okay with it.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:31 am to
It's true.

It means they aren't some existential threat to us.

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:34 am to
quote:

It's true. It means they aren't some existential threat to us.


They are a very REAL threat to people.

BTW, you just went on record supporting some rapes, assaults and murders....congrats on sinking to a new low!
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:34 am to
quote:

It means they aren't some existential threat to us.

do you dispute that illegal immigration, specifically of unskilled workers, depresses wages and this mostly affects poor blacks, hispanics and whites?

Spoiler Alert: even left-leaning economists admit this as fact.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Let's say the above statement is true (it is not), does that mean the EXTRA rapes, assaults and murders being committed by people WHO AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE is OK with you if it means these people get to invade and stay?



You thought this lame shite deserved its own thread?
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31205 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:37 am to
quote:

It means they aren't some existential threat to us.


So your okay with one raping your wife, daughter or other family member?
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20362 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:38 am to
What about the fact that open borders isn’t sustainable?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:39 am to
quote:

They are a very REAL threat to people.


So are lightning strikes. Are lightning strikes a national emergency?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:39 am to
quote:

do you dispute that illegal immigration, specifically of unskilled workers, depresses wages and this mostly affects poor blacks, hispanics and whites?



I dispute that the best way to stop this is a wall. The best way would be to throw the people hiring illegal immigrants into jail - including those who happen to hire them for their golf courses.

Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:40 am to
I don't think illegal immigration is without problems. I just think that conservatives use scare tactics to make things appear substantially worse than they are. I live in a big city with tons of illegals. Anecdotally, they aren't the ones that are in the news for most of the crime.

I do support stronger labor practices to prevent tax-free labor. I do think it depresses wages for legal citizens.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:40 am to
quote:


So your (sic) okay with one raping your wife, daughter or other family member?



Of course not, but I don't constantly worry about things like that. I also am not okay with a terrorist blowing up my hospital, but I'm not always hoping for a national emergency to prevent the minuscule chance it happens.

Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Let's say the above statement is true (it is not)
its 100 percent true.

quote:

...does that mean the EXTRA rapes, assaults and murders being committed by people WHO AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE is OK with you if it means these people get to invade and stay?
wow. this is what you came up with, is it?

its astounding that I even have to say this, but some of you are so far gone that you cant even remember where your lies began or ended, so, no. rape and murder are bad. no one is for that. theres no one on the other side of this issue.

and heres the important part that your idiotic premise skipped right over: NO ONE IS FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

No one is advocating that, no one wants it to be the norm, no one thinks its ok. There are people in the US illegally unfortunately, and we need to deal with that. its far from ideal but most things are. its very definitely a problem we need to solve.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57343 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:42 am to
They're committing a crime simply by being in this country illegally, so 100% of illegal aliens commit crimes.
Posted by JohnnyT
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2005
1807 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:44 am to
This talking point has been thoroughly debunked. A nerdy statistics guy I heard on Blunt Force Truth laid out the details and sources used. I'll have to do some digging to link to it - but that claim is patently false.

Illegal immigrant proponents cook the numbers by both reducing the numerator and including legal immigrants in the denominator. What the data actually shows is that illegal immigrants do indeed engage in more criminal behavior. Legal immigrants, however, are among the most law-abiding with their data showing showing them to be among the best behaved of those in the US.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 7:48 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:46 am to
quote:

The best way would be to throw the people hiring illegal immigrants into jail


I know you have a very small brain, but there is a thing called "multi-tasking" that most of us are capable of.

We can arrest those employing illegals, providing Sanctuary (cities) for them AND build a wall....taaa-daaaaa!
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:47 am to
quote:

and heres the important part that your idiotic premise skipped right over: NO ONE IS FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.


Have you been in a fking coma?

The Dems are absolutely FOR illegal immigration and open-borders.....
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:48 am to
quote:

I dispute that the best way to stop this is a wall. The best way would be to throw the people hiring illegal immigrants into jail - including those who happen to hire them for their golf courses.

Ok good, there's a bit of common ground here.

So you'd support criminal charges, prison time, for someone knowingly hiring an illegal? Ok, I can work with that.

I suspect, that such a bill would have Leftists yelling racist.. but that's speculation.

Secondly to your point, do you dispute that the Border Patrol strongly believes that walls are immensely effective in many locations that do get illegal crossings and don't currently have a wall?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:48 am to
quote:

Of course not, but I don't constantly worry about things like that.


So what would you say to the family of someone whose 9 year old daughter has been raped by an illegal alien crossing our Southern border?

What would you say to the little girl?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:49 am to
quote:

We can arrest those employing illegals


Can we start with Trump?

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