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Busch as a DB coach
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:13 pm
Let's look at the number of players drafted in the secondary from Busch's respective stops as a secondary coach in some form:
16-17 Rutgers - 0
13-14 Wisconsin - 1 (3rd Round)
09-12 Utah State - 1 (3rd Rounders) *another 3rd rounder was a CB (he was safeties coach).
05-07 Nebraska - 1 (2nd round he coached 1 year) *1 5th rounder CB, he was safeties coach
01-03 Utah State - 0
So in nearly 18 years prior to getting to LSU, Busch has had 4 players drafted from his position/unit coaching groups. 4.
Raymond, OTOH, in just his first 6 seasons at LSU (not counting this season) has had 6 (this doesn't count Mathieu since he didn't play in 2012).
Yes talent makes a difference, but if Busch is as good as some make him out to be, then you'd have seen more success in nearly the past 2 decades.
He is purely a safety coach throughout his career where he was successful, so expecting him to just replace Raymond is a bit naive.
16-17 Rutgers - 0
13-14 Wisconsin - 1 (3rd Round)
09-12 Utah State - 1 (3rd Rounders) *another 3rd rounder was a CB (he was safeties coach).
05-07 Nebraska - 1 (2nd round he coached 1 year) *1 5th rounder CB, he was safeties coach
01-03 Utah State - 0
So in nearly 18 years prior to getting to LSU, Busch has had 4 players drafted from his position/unit coaching groups. 4.
Raymond, OTOH, in just his first 6 seasons at LSU (not counting this season) has had 6 (this doesn't count Mathieu since he didn't play in 2012).
Yes talent makes a difference, but if Busch is as good as some make him out to be, then you'd have seen more success in nearly the past 2 decades.
He is purely a safety coach throughout his career where he was successful, so expecting him to just replace Raymond is a bit naive.
This post was edited on 1/13/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:15 pm to Geauxgurt
Right, because those schools have the tools to recruit DBs like LSU does. gtfo
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:15 pm to Geauxgurt
Those schools suck arse lol
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:15 pm to Geauxgurt
Do Raymond’s before he got to LSU and compare it to Ron Cooper
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:16 pm to Geauxgurt
Why don’t you make an apples to apples comparison and use Ron Cooper compared to CR?
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:16 pm to Geauxgurt
How many players did Raymond have drafted prior to being at LSU?
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:17 pm to Geauxgurt
This says more about where Raymond has coached rather than him. If Busch was here those years it would be the same or more.
If Raymond feels he needs to leave to further his career by all means bye.
If Raymond feels he needs to leave to further his career by all means bye.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:17 pm to Geauxgurt
Sorry. Busch is pushing Raymond out so he can take over and we'll finally have a real Defensive Backs Coach.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:28 pm to Geauxgurt
That comparison is not apples to apples.
One coach has his pick of the litter cuz we are DBU while the other coached at FAR less heralded places.
One coach has his pick of the litter cuz we are DBU while the other coached at FAR less heralded places.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 1:58 pm to Geauxgurt
Not a lot of thought process put into this post considering the resources of said schools
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:04 pm to Geauxgurt
Busch suck & LSU just seem to have a problem paying African American coaches.
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Just off experience & i know what I’m dealing with on tRant I expect downvotes
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Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:07 pm to Geauxgurt
Well,
Rutgers went from 68th to 22nd in PDs after Busch's arrival
Wisc was 4th in total defense in 2014 and 7th in 2013
Utah State was perennially sub-60s in PDs and was 4th in Busch's last year there.
Rutgers went from 68th to 22nd in PDs after Busch's arrival
Wisc was 4th in total defense in 2014 and 7th in 2013
Utah State was perennially sub-60s in PDs and was 4th in Busch's last year there.
Posted on 1/13/19 at 2:16 pm to Geauxgurt
Delpit will be a first rounder.
If he had 9 first rounders in 18 years would that be good?
If he had 9 first rounders in 18 years would that be good?
Posted on 1/13/19 at 4:37 pm to Geauxgurt
Do not want raymond meddling in the frickin defense. Aran da is our only DC and it should stay that way. That's the only thing I do not want and we should let raymond go if that's the case. Don't frick with arandas defense.
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