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Watching the game again and the hit on Burrow

Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:03 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:03 pm
frick UCF with a cactus. We should have run the score up and left no doubt. Don’t let them take any positives away from the game at all. I don’t often agree with Orgeron, but he was absolutely correct here. If that’s not targeting, then the rule is too arbitrary and should be changed.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59705 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:06 pm to
it's an extremely dangerous play and should be penalized. especially leading with the crown of your helmet at a defenseless player.

Delpit is ejected for trying to wrap up a receiver who is in the air.

But a Defensive lineman is cleared for leading with his head against a player who didn't see him coming.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34782 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:13 pm to
It was a legal hit that LSU fans would be proudly playing over and over again if the roles were reversed.

Credit Burrow for great toughness for getting back in the fight after he caught his breath.
Posted by tritiger
Member since Apr 2006
1436 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:14 pm to
Alt26:

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Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73135 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:14 pm to
They had a dirtier hit on Burrow later that isn't legal and was missed.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
21847 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:15 pm to
only if you were a fricking dooje
like you
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10473 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:15 pm to
I was just rewatching the hit as well. The helmet looks like it hits the neck area which I thought was considered part of the rule for an illegal hit.

There is too much inconsistency in how this rule is applied.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
21847 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:16 pm to
Yes
Neck area
Maybe they didn't want LSU to play Neck
Posted by JambalayaAintAllThat
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
210 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:16 pm to
“Should have run up the score”

Are you implying that LSU held back?
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
45863 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:19 pm to
I think as fans watching the game, we see the difference. It would be very nice to set rules that make sense.

The hit on Burrow on the pick 6 was completely intentional in a manner to blow him up.

The Delpit targeting was him going to tackle low and receiver got flipped during right at the end.

IMO common sense should be the rule of thumb.

Look at the NFL finally addressing what's a catch. Yes, there may be times when it's too questionable, but I think almost everyone would agree on the improvement.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:20 pm to
It was a good, solid, clean hit. And, he was moving towards the DB who had just intercepted the pass. I don't see how you can fault the guy for throwing that block.

If the roles had been reversed, There would be people on here (perhaps even yourself) excited as hell over a LSU defensive player getting a hit like that on an opposing player.
Posted by PuraVida
Indamarsh, LA
Member since Oct 2013
1038 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:23 pm to
It was trash... pure and simple. The taunting after the play was a penalty, as well. Read the rule book retard!
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12810 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

We should have run the score up and left no doubt.


We had to settle for 4 FG's otherwise it would have been a rout. Too bad our red zone offense is arse. Apparently there is kryptonite or quicksand inside the opponents 10 yard line.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
75128 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

It was a good, solid, clean hit


All true but his crown drilled the side of Joe's helmet and he sized him up before the hit.
If Joe had jumped straight up and coming down he is drilled I wouldn't call it.
Just me.
Posted by taf
Kansas City, KS
Member since Dec 2003
787 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:29 pm to
I think you may really believe this, so maybe you are not familiar with the new rule. This situation is explicitly used as an example in the new rule to define a defenseless player. And a forceable blow to the head and neck area to a defenseless player is the definition of targeting.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
43374 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

It was a good, solid, clean hit.


It may have been legal (I say that's highly questionable based on the written rule, but I digress), but it was dirty as frick.

FWIW, Dirty is dirty and if we do some bullshite like that I would point it out. To be honest, if the roles were reversed, and we had a d lineman pull this stunt EXACTLY as it happened today resulting in his ejection, I would call him a dirty MF that deserved his ejection for targeting. Like our O lineman in the Wisconsin game at Lambeau...frick that dirty bullshite.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10141 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:34 pm to
It appeared to me that he hit him in the head again when he landed on him
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15986 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:36 pm to
People saying it was a clean hit have literally zero idea what the rule is. Defenseless player with the crown hitting the head OR NECK area. You’re going to tell me he hit his shoulder? I DVRd the game and I’ve watched the play 10 times. It is a crackback block, therefore Joe was 100% defenseless. He had to hit him in the chest or lower, that did not come close to happening.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15986 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:38 pm to
Furthermore, you don’t see hits like this in football any more at all...why? Because dudes get kicked out for those hits
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23067 posts
Posted on 1/1/19 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

It was a good, solid, clean hit. And, he was moving towards the DB who had just intercepted the pass. I don't see how you can fault the guy for throwing that block.


To be targeting, there must be 1) forcible contact to the head/neck area to a 2)defenseless players.

By definition, a QB is always a defenseless player after a change of possession,so that box is checked

To complete the requirements, I see 2 possibly applicable rules. Was there either:

quote:

Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area


Or

quote:

• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area


I would say that both of those could arguably be met, especially the second as evidenced by the gash on burrows neck.

This rule was put in place to stop hits like this
This post was edited on 1/1/19 at 7:41 pm
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