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re: If we do trade AD...shouldn't we trade Jrue as well?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:36 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:36 pm to TigerinATL
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you should keep Jrue and Niko at a minimum. Probably try and keep Randle too
I don’t think you can keep Randle and Niko even if you don’t go total rebuild. Too much money for guys who do not complement each other defensively. Both need to play with a rim protector and AD is our only one.
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Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:41 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Jrue has a bad turnover issue, especially at the end of games. That's why we need a primary facilitator even if hes playing with AD.. A lineup of
Smart
Jrue
Tatum
Niko
Robin Lopez
Would not be as bad as you think, as long as we dont have an idiot for a coach that would keep Lopez at the 3 point line... Jrue, Tatum and Niko can all hit the 3, and Smart, Jrue and Lopez can all score in the paint..
What would be the biggest issue with that lineup?
Smart
Jrue
Tatum
Niko
Robin Lopez
Would not be as bad as you think, as long as we dont have an idiot for a coach that would keep Lopez at the 3 point line... Jrue, Tatum and Niko can all hit the 3, and Smart, Jrue and Lopez can all score in the paint..
What would be the biggest issue with that lineup?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:45 pm to Soggymoss
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What would be the biggest issue with that lineup
Umm 3 non shooters in that lineup.
Also, the timeline of Jrue and Tatum don’t line up.
ETA: Jrue has shot @ at or over 35% once in the last 4 seasons.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/27/18 at 4:02 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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turns the ball over at an alarming rate
2.4 ast/to ratio and is third in the league in assist
Start listing the super stars that facilitate and have a higher ratio. He is in line or among the best in the league right now.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 4:06 pm to Colonel Flagg
There’s no sugar coating it with stats. Jrue does not do well as the primary creator when the defense tries hard. When the defense is at normal levels of pressure he’s fine. You at least need a Rubio or Payton next to him (or Ben Simmons).
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 12/27/18 at 4:28 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Just because hes not a 40% 3 point shooter, doesnt mean hes not a shooter.. Jrue is good at the midrange, are you expecting to have 5 players sitting at the perimeter at all times?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 4:33 pm to Colonel Flagg
2.4 isn’t elite. 3/1 is elite.
3rd in the league in assists
4th in turnovers.
The more the ball is in his hands the worst the team plays.
However he can get to the paint, which makes him a valuable offensive player.
I like Jrue, but it’s absolutely the smart move to trade him if Davis is traded.
3rd in the league in assists
4th in turnovers.
The more the ball is in his hands the worst the team plays.
However he can get to the paint, which makes him a valuable offensive player.
I like Jrue, but it’s absolutely the smart move to trade him if Davis is traded.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 4:34 pm to Soggymoss
Just because you think he’s a good shooter doesn’t mean he is.
Also, north of 35% is considered above average.
Jrue has been below average for 3/4 seasons.
Also, north of 35% is considered above average.
Jrue has been below average for 3/4 seasons.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:15 am to FatMan
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Not sure how many other franchises are going to pay that much money for Jrue...
There aren't a lot, but there are some teams that would consider it. I honestly would like the Suns to make a call if the Pels decided to totally blow it up. If you have a guard who is weaker defensively, Jrue is a perfect guy to pair next to him. I really would enjoy a Jrue/Booker back court.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:57 am to TigerinATL
I don't recall anyone complaining about Jrue's end of game turnovers in the playoffs.
Jrue can be a primary creator without a doubt. He just can't do it every single possession. Bound to turn it over eventually. As I've said a bunch of times, we ask to much of him.
You pair Jrue with another similar player, like Beal, and you let them share that end of game duty instead of Jrue taking all the burden every single possession of every single game.
Jrue has single handedly won us games this year b/c of his play in the closing minutes. he's also lost some. That burden shouldn't be solely on him every game like it is right now. This is where the blame falls on the coaches. instead of drawing up plays to get Moore an open look, or Niko an open look, or a mismatch for Randle, OR GIVE IT TO AD, we just give it to Jrue and say get us a bucket. Jrue isn't Lebron.
Jrue can be a primary creator without a doubt. He just can't do it every single possession. Bound to turn it over eventually. As I've said a bunch of times, we ask to much of him.
You pair Jrue with another similar player, like Beal, and you let them share that end of game duty instead of Jrue taking all the burden every single possession of every single game.
Jrue has single handedly won us games this year b/c of his play in the closing minutes. he's also lost some. That burden shouldn't be solely on him every game like it is right now. This is where the blame falls on the coaches. instead of drawing up plays to get Moore an open look, or Niko an open look, or a mismatch for Randle, OR GIVE IT TO AD, we just give it to Jrue and say get us a bucket. Jrue isn't Lebron.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:58 am to TeddyPadillac
Beal would be a nice add. Just not sure we have any realistic chance of getting him.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:00 am to NOSHAU
you either make it happen for someone like Beal, or trade AD. Adding Kent Bazemore isn't going to keep AD. Give them our first and a future first that will be very attractive if we lose AD.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:03 am to TeddyPadillac
Would be nice if we could do a temporary trade dependent on AD re-signing.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:11 pm to Fun Bunch
this would seriously heart my heart.
trading AD would suck bad enough for me, but Jrue has become my favorite Pel and in no way are you going to get a good trade for him. Somebody's 1st? The chances of getting somebody of Jrue's caliber with a 10-20 pick is slim to none.
this team would be hard to watch if Jrue is gone. like unbearable.
trading AD would suck bad enough for me, but Jrue has become my favorite Pel and in no way are you going to get a good trade for him. Somebody's 1st? The chances of getting somebody of Jrue's caliber with a 10-20 pick is slim to none.
this team would be hard to watch if Jrue is gone. like unbearable.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:51 pm to teke184
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This assumes we get a bag of magic beans instead of talent.
best post ever.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:26 am to Soggymoss
Why do people think Marcus smart is good
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:36 am to Lester Earl
I think Smart fills a big need on this team, another creater/wing defender who also brings much needed leadership. Because we'd potentially be trading with Boston he'd also be more available than better players we could get that check those boxes.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 8:37 am
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:47 am to Lester Earl
Smart has the ability to be the primary facilitator for a team, he can get hot from 3, and hes on a real team friendly deal.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:47 am to TigerinATL
Hrs the guard version of solo hill, how many of those guys do you need?
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:53 am to Lester Earl
I think Payton being out just has us panicking a bit. Him returning should plug that roster hole pretty well and a guy like Smart will seem less useful.
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