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re: 2019 Garden Thread
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:51 pm to Zappas Stache
Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:51 pm to Zappas Stache
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We can agree on this statement. Hopefully glyphosate will soon be banned,
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:54 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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We’ll just have a nice home and garden board they said.
I beg your pardon
I never promised you a Rose Garden
Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:11 pm to Zappas Stache
Clearly. You’ve only managed to turn what was otherwise a really cool and civil annual thread into an eco-friendly pissing match. Congrats I guess.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:16 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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You’ve only managed to turn what was otherwise a really cool and civil annual thread into an eco-friendly pissing match.
Bless your heart.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:33 pm to Zappas Stache
Eat a dick dude. 
No one really gives a shite about how you used to work on an organic farm one time in college or how you hate monsanto. If you want to explain the organic way to do something and let people make their own decisions, fine, but quit being a stereotype.
No one really gives a shite about how you used to work on an organic farm one time in college or how you hate monsanto. If you want to explain the organic way to do something and let people make their own decisions, fine, but quit being a stereotype.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 7:43 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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No one really gives a shite about how you used to work on an organic farm one time in college or how you hate monsanto. If you want to explain the organic way to do something and let people make their own decisions, fine, but quit being a stereotype
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:13 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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If you want to explain the organic way to do something and let people make their own decisions, fine,
Exactly what I did but I wouldn't expect you to read my original post that started the back n forth with another poster.
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Eat a dick dude
There was no name calling til you showed up.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:20 pm to Zappas Stache
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:40 pm to PillageUrVillage
Get back on topic.
I put up my emt today and tied off half my tomatoes before the dark ran me off.
I’m using the French string method and I don’t think I’ll ever go back to cages.
I put up my emt today and tied off half my tomatoes before the dark ran me off.
I’m using the French string method and I don’t think I’ll ever go back to cages.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:50 pm to eng08
Tell me more about the French string method. I'm still using wooden stakes for my tomatoes. I use string woven through bamboo stakes for my green beans but hadn't thought to use it on tomatoes.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:56 pm to drsung
LINK - site that explains the trellis method
It might just be named string tomatoe trellis.
I’ve used bamboo in the past as the supports but each year I buy a few more 10 ft and 5 ft emt 3/4” conduits, connectors, and 90 elbows. I use 1/2” rebar 3 ft long as a stake and slide the emt on it. Lasts forever.
It might just be named string tomatoe trellis.
I’ve used bamboo in the past as the supports but each year I buy a few more 10 ft and 5 ft emt 3/4” conduits, connectors, and 90 elbows. I use 1/2” rebar 3 ft long as a stake and slide the emt on it. Lasts forever.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:13 pm to eng08
You think that would work for cherry tomatoes? I prune all the suckers off my indetermine plants but I kinda let the cherry plants run wild and just prune for air flow.
I’m still using cages, but I’m going to switch from grow bags to an expansion on my raised bed this fall. I’m planning for a good trellising system. I’ve read a bit about the Florida weave, but your idea looks good too. I could just build the frame out of 2x4’s attached to the sides of my bed.
I’m still using cages, but I’m going to switch from grow bags to an expansion on my raised bed this fall. I’m planning for a good trellising system. I’ve read a bit about the Florida weave, but your idea looks good too. I could just build the frame out of 2x4’s attached to the sides of my bed.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:21 pm to bluemoons
Yeah it works, might need to add some more string to tie them up, I have Roma, cherry, and regular in my garden
That’s what my friend did, has 2x4’s nailed to his box bed frame and strings running horizontal and he adds vertical when he plants tomato’s.
That’s what my friend did, has 2x4’s nailed to his box bed frame and strings running horizontal and he adds vertical when he plants tomato’s.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:46 pm to eng08
Only problem with that method is you have to take off all the suckers and IMO as the plant matures, suckers produce a lot of fruit. For example, when you see small suckers pop up on larger mature tomato plants, you’ll see several blossoms popping up even in small suckers.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 6:38 am to Zappas Stache
Last post I'll make on this topic to avoid derail further.
The data is from the USDA Pesticide Data Program.
I follow the guidelines set forth by research scientists who have devoted their lives to the improvement of agricultural practices not the EU which has proven to be a unreliable reactionary body.
Whether organic or not, you're "dumping chemicals" to control pests and disease. I follow the practice of putting as few inputs in as necessary, which means I'm only using treatments when necessary. For the most part I only use Bt (organic approved) Seven (safe and been around for years) Permethrin (Synthetic form of natural substance)
Large scale farmers don't have the time or man power to spot treat, so they have to follow research based guidelines for treatment plans.
I'd encourage you to read Truth About Organic Gardening
Good book that doesn't argue for one over the other, but provides insight into both. Including addressing glyphosate.
The data is from the USDA Pesticide Data Program.
I follow the guidelines set forth by research scientists who have devoted their lives to the improvement of agricultural practices not the EU which has proven to be a unreliable reactionary body.
Whether organic or not, you're "dumping chemicals" to control pests and disease. I follow the practice of putting as few inputs in as necessary, which means I'm only using treatments when necessary. For the most part I only use Bt (organic approved) Seven (safe and been around for years) Permethrin (Synthetic form of natural substance)
Large scale farmers don't have the time or man power to spot treat, so they have to follow research based guidelines for treatment plans.
I'd encourage you to read Truth About Organic Gardening
Good book that doesn't argue for one over the other, but provides insight into both. Including addressing glyphosate.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 6:42 am to lsuson
What method do you use for trellising?
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:07 am to bluemoons
I’ve used the vertical method. Didn’t like it. For one you have to build a roof like section to hold up the lines. I’ve done stakes, but I’ve not like that method because once the plant gets tall and wider you have to constantly tie the plant back to the stake or add mire stakes. I like the traditional route of using cages. I use both traditional wire round cages and make square cages with wide mesh so that stems can push through the cages. It still allows me to pollinate blossoms with an electric tooth brush and holds up stems with lots of fruit with out breaking stems. I always say use what works for you
Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:24 am to lsuson
Since a lot of us are using the TTF, why not some TTC?
Texas Tomato Cage
If the TTF produces some giant plants like I’m hoping, I may have to invest in some of these in the future.
Texas Tomato Cage
If the TTF produces some giant plants like I’m hoping, I may have to invest in some of these in the future.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 9:51 am to PillageUrVillage
I got on board with the TTF. But holy hell are they proud of their cages. $169 for 6 large cages. And they still appear to be similar metal to the $4 ones at Walmart. You could def make something for cheaper than that.
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