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re: FCC abandoned Net Neutrality regulations 1 year ago today

Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:21 pm to
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source to back up these claims?


US internet speed rose 36% in 2018


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Finally some good news: The internet is getting faster, especially fixed broadband internet. Broadband download speeds in the U.S. rose 35.8 percent and upload speeds are up 22 percent from last year, according to internet speed-test company Ookla in its latest U.S. broadband report.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263208 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:24 pm to
5G I see going to revelutionize wireless and the internet anyway.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:48 pm to
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BigTech is worried about losing advertising dollars. Nothing more. The major advertising revenue generators support NN.


This was the key for me not to like it. Googles/FB/etc want their cake and eat it to. They need ATT/Verizon to support their product, but dont want to pay them to improve the infrastructure. So they get money in advertising at no minimal cost.

So NN told one group you cant charge the other based on "free internet" heart strings. Like there isnt a cost to the first group to maintain while they arent seeing nearly the revenue#s that the googles are getting.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29345 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:22 pm to
This by itself is a good enough reason to gut NN.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4646 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 2:40 pm to
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People are so damn gullible Muh free market right


Yea, no.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51954 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 3:05 pm to
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AT&T throttled my Xbox and Steam downloads during Net Neutrality, but not before or after.


There wasn’t an internet before “net neutrality.”

Might have happened during the period where it is involved with Title 2.

But that is something else entirely, and something that Comcast singlehandly essentially forced to happen due to shitty lawyering.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29116 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 3:07 pm to
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This was the key for me not to like it. Googles/FB/etc want their cake and eat it to. They need ATT/Verizon to support their product, but dont want to pay them to improve the infrastructure. So they get money in advertising at no minimal cost.

So NN told one group you cant charge the other based on "free internet" heart strings. Like there isnt a cost to the first group to maintain while they arent seeing nearly the revenue#s that the googles are getting.




this. MF this. the increase in bandwidth vs cost in the last 5 years is the one of the best increases in technology ROI in modern history.

for reference, i used to run t1 (1.5 mbps) lines to small towns in Texas for thousands a month and i was the fastest internet in town. homes can get 1000x times that for less than $150 a month.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51954 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 3:16 pm to
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This was the key for me not to like it. Googles/FB/etc want their cake and eat it to. They need ATT/Verizon to support their product, but dont want to pay them to improve the infrastructure. So they get money in advertising at no minimal cost.

So NN told one group you cant charge the other based on "free internet" heart strings. Like there isnt a cost to the first group to maintain while they arent seeing nearly the revenue#s that the googles are getting.


That’s not what it’s about though.

It’s about charging a surcharge on top of the agreed upon rate and provided service just because you can afford to/arbitrarily stifling traffic if you don’t pay.

It’s about saying that if you want 100mbs/s you have to pay x......but if you want that already paid for speed to YouTube you need to pay more.

It wasn’t demand for more infrastructure capacity from the providers. That’s already there in the form of dark fiber that was already paid for by federal government grants.

Before and after they were doing the inverse of the above example:

They would agree to a level of service and what it would cost.

But when major companies began to actually use what they paid for, it cut profit margins so they stifled the connections.

When they were sued for essentially false advertising bordering on breach of contract, a number of ISP’s defense was saying that they were utilities and therefore weren’t subject to general trade laws.

So the government partially placed them under the legal umbrella of utilities.

And now it’s was too restrictive.

Except it didn’t stop them from suing municipalities from generating their own public services to compete at a local level where their service was shitty.

THAT is trying to have their cake and eat it too.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 3:19 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66561 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 3:27 pm to


These hoes don't know.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34030 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 3:33 pm to
Took less than a year to ban conservatives from the internet.
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