re: Did the mid terms kill the idea of the “blexit”?

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This is what I never understood about Democrats. There is very little long term payoff in focusing on the Black vote.

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The optics are the payoff. They can afford to hop from social issue to social issue and emphasize different demographics in the short term if they can couch it under the umbrella of "we care about ___ socially oppressed subgroups!" in the long run.

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Hispanics are growing. They are literally the key to winning Texas and securing Democratic support. To be fair, given Hispanic voting patterns , they arent as reliable for either party.

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That's the fly in the ointment for the left, which is why they've gone all in on the illegal immigration angle. That's a group leftists can reliably count on in the short term, so tipping the scales in their direction can optimize their numbers with hispanics in the long run.

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See, this is what I'm talking about. I'm asking for specifics, and you're answering back with platitudes. That's the disconnect. 

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Shorty got onto me about the same thing. I'll try to be more specific.

What I'm saying is that the ACA and NCLB could be considered patriotic as they technically address the needs of Americans.

Obviously, both are flawed. Doesn't make them any less patriotic.

I'm well aware of how our military operates. It's not the military that is the problem, but how our politicians use them. We are at war not because we have to be to defend ourselves. We are there to profit. The last time we came anywhere close was WWII.

As for Trumps economic acumen regarding business deals, I celebrate him for it. I have nothing against the attempts he has made. It's not me who needs convincing on that front. I was just pointing out how many Blacks currently feel about it.

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What I'm saying is that the ACA and NCLB could be considered patriotic as they technically address the needs of Americans

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So does the opposing view on these proposals

That's the Democrat trick

Agree with THEIR idea on an issue....... Otherwise,...... You don't care

It's horse shite

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Blexit was always a troll. Candace Owens has capitalized on the republicans (whites) who are petrified of being called racists.

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There certainly is some quick money to be made by African Americans ( especially prominent ones) willing to spout off some Right Wing ideology.

Not just Owens. Stacey Dash hadn't been heard from since 1992 before her recent political stance got her a few gigs....

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the ACA and NCLB could be considered patriotic as they technically address the needs of Americans.

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Many things address the needs of Americans. Admittedly, patriotism is subjective, but I think you'll agree that yours is an egregiously low threshold by which to judge. Also, what protectionist rhetoric are you seeing from the GOP in those issues that is affronting to minorities? I think you can see why I think that was a reach on your part.

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We are at war not because we have to be to defend ourselves. We are there to profit.

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Not an accurate blanket statement to make, I'm sorry.

Can you profit off war? Sure. Hell, money is the impetus behind most armed conflict tbh. Way more to national defense than just sitting back waiting for someone to attack you. That's naive. Yes, I'm a veteran, as you know. I'm not narcissistic enough to ti think that that makes my opinion more valid than anyone else's, but at the same time I know you know more than the pacifist civilian's stance that we shouldn't ever strike first or have a strong military presence abroad.

And again (I'm doing this because that's the theme of our exchange), nothing in the GOP rhetoric regarding national defense is protectionist to the exclusion of minority participation and leadership.

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As for Trumps economic acumen regarding business deals, I celebrate him for it. I have nothing against the attempts he has made. It's not me who needs convincing on that front. I was just pointing out how many Blacks currently feel about it.

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Fair enough. My point is that those blacks don't have a factual basis to react with animosity against Trump in that arena. Yet they do exactly that.

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By "protectionist rhetoric" I'm referring to actions that are designed to protect the white classes at the expense of targeted opposition.

Like how our trade deals with China are supposed to improve the US economy by imposing tariffs.

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How are white Americans being protected at the expense of or to the exclusion of black/minority Americans by virtue of tariffs with foreign nations? I'm not seeing that at all (and I'm not a fan of tariffs as a long term solution btw).

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 I will say that the words used by President Trump and conservative activists like Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones can be interpreted as being hostile towards Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, and Black Americans. 

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I listen to Rush semi-regularly (the same radio station that airs Spurs games here in SA also hosts his show so I catch him sometimes in my car) and have never heard him say anything on his show that's remotely hostile to the groups you describe. And conservatives are hardly of one mind about Alex Jones--he's fricking crazy so that's a poor source to cite.

Since you brought them up, though, give me some examples of what you describe?

Also, it bears mentioning that those two gents differ from the GOP rhetoric coming from Washington quite regularly from what I've seen/heard.