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re: Interesting post by former player about injuries....

Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:38 am to
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127471 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:38 am to
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It was pretty well received that LSU misdiagnosed him.

Yep, people need a refresher on this thread from way back.
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Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78973 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:38 am to
Ciron was a great player . Much respect to Ciron. Not having all the facts, I will resist the urge to make any comments about the veracity of those comments.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 8:49 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66855 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:48 am to
Yeah I mean If you know any other 53 game starters who didn’t pass an NFL physical maybe you can high road me here.

Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32513 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:53 am to
quote:

He has a voice too
Just could have told Miles he wasn't gonna play.
But our "blame e'erbody else" society is what it is.

I don't all the facts but it sounds like he was misdiagnosed and it resulted in permanent injury. When you are 20 and naive you have more trust in a doctor than when you are older and wiser. At the same time it's a bad look for him to call out LSU when Miles isn't even here anymore.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16930 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:55 am to
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Black sued/is suing Lloyd’s of London over his insurance policy


this is interesting. wonder if he really understood the policy. or if the agent didn't explain it well enough.
Posted by JONBURRIS1981
BATON ROUGE
Member since Nov 2012
1332 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:58 am to
This is for the guys who downvoted me. Take you own jobs for example. You go to work every day and bust your arse. You grind and grind which allows you to get paid at an average wage. Company does well and upper management gets raises. In this situation coaches get bonuses and contract extensions. Boosters get kickbacks and better perks. Players or in my situation gets told to shut up and continue working for the wage that is allotted to you. Major college football is big business. That man put his body and time on the line but I read in some post that he's acting like a bitch for stating the truth. Only in America people. I love this country but the truth is I would complain too if people profited off of me performing on the field.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:58 am to
Then don't play football. Always baffles me when players complain about something they are not forced to do.
Posted by Violent Tally
Member since Aug 2014
1084 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:59 am to
How much is his college debt?
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:00 am to
Then don't play football and get an education or job like everyone else.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:03 am to
Return your tuition payments.
Posted by JONBURRIS1981
BATON ROUGE
Member since Nov 2012
1332 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:03 am to
Every body looks at them not having any debt, but know one looks at what he helped bring in. How much as LSU earned while he played there.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:05 am to
quote:

You grind and grind which allows you to get paid at an average wage. Company does well and upper management gets raises. In this situation coaches get bonuses and contract extensions. Boosters get kickbacks and better perks.


Lol...you sound like a low level employee talking and don't know what the frick you are talking about. Those upper management people have plenty of stress and work on their plate.

You sound like a communist.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:08 am to
LSU has an agreement with players. LSU gives a scholarship and they play football. Period. AND now those players get stipends.

Players DO NOT HAVE TO PLAY!!! They can pay like the rest of us.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:09 am to
People are jumping your arse about this and I'm kind of surprised about it, really.

Louisiana is one of, if not the worst in the nation in healthcare. And I'm not talkin about the patients. It's a pretty widely accepted truth. This is anecdotal but my wife has a shitload of clients and all the rich ones go out of state for health care. Mostly to Houston.

Look at the constant injuries and misdiagnoses that occur with the Saints and LSU.

In general, people here are just terrible at their jobs. That cultural trait doesn't just disappear once you get your doctorate.

There's only a few trades that Louisianians are above average or excellent in when compared to the rest of the United States. Politicking, lawyering, bartending, cooking, fishing and tour guiding.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 9:12 am
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72229 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:10 am to
Shut the frick up

LSU also has a responsibility to take care of the players too. If they misdiagnose a player and it results in further injury, the player has every right to raise hell
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72229 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:12 am to
quote:

this is interesting. wonder if he really understood the policy. or if the agent didn't explain it well enough.


There are different stories out there. I believe he did sue his financial advisor also.

It’s sad. A kid in his early 20’s having to rely on adults to make huge decisions and he gets the short end of the stick.
Posted by JONBURRIS1981
BATON ROUGE
Member since Nov 2012
1332 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:16 am to
Oh but I do. I have owned my own business as well punched the time clock. What's unamerican is not getting paid what your worth as a worker. Socialist countries don't do that. The state sets your wage and you as a worker have no way to adjust you wage.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 10:40 am
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:20 am to
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But our "blame e'erbody else" society is what it is.



You mean the same way every society has been?

It’s so funny how shite like this is said all the time (generally by older individuals) yet none of them take a step back and really think about the fact that IT’S ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY!

Example: Music (especially rock and roll), video games, the Russians, the Jews, devils and demons, Dungeons and Dragons, Muslims, gods, etc....

It’s human nature to find faults in others over ourselves. It is part of the Id.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32117 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:24 am to
I don't think anyone is jumping my arse. I can see it from both sides here. As a kid playing football you rely on the people who are supposed to take care of you and you trust them. When they frick it up, I can understand the frustration. But like others have said, no one forced him to play.

I was honestly just curious as to if this was something widespread throughout LSU, or just an isolated incident. I can't think of any other players insinuating anything like this.
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
4810 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:31 am to
quote:

That’s why the narrative of “Greedy should just get an insurance policy” is fricking stupid. It’s extremely difficult to collect the full amount on these policies.

Here's an interesting article that sheds a little light on how sports disability policies work. Black could have obtained an NCAA monitored policy at 0% financing but let an unscrupulous financial planner talk him into purchasing a third party policy from Lloyd's.
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