re: Better head coach: Urban Meyer or Dabo Swinney?

Urban short term. Dabo long term

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Dabo built Clemson from the ground up whereas Meyer inherited a gold mine at both Florida and Ohio State

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Completely forgetting that Meyer produced a 13-0 team at Utah, I see.

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Dabo built Clemson from the ground up whereas Meyer inherited a gold mine at both Florida and Ohio

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Don't forget the gold mine he inherited at Utah.

Those Mormon kids dwarf the talent down South.

And while we're talking about inheriting gold mines.

Deep South talent at LSU and Alabama...not to mention inheriting a Top 5 program all-time in Alabama.

Lets see Saban's resume if he stays at Michigan State?

We all know his NFL resume.

Lets not act like Meyer walked into made-to-win-bag-money factories and Saban didn't.

Winning huge at Alabama, especially when they don't have to win their Conference...with all that Southern talent and history isn't a Bill Snyder job.

It's expected. Saban has all the controls and safeguards and talent to not fail.

Hell, even their schedule is retarded despite being the king of the hill. They play only 7 SEC teams, 4 scrimmages against Community Colleges and 1 home game against someone like Louisville of Duke.

SEC has fricking 14 teams...why the frick are teams playing 7 Conference games?

This isn't a Conference...it's a loose Confederacy.

I don't know why the league and opponent fans puts up with this...the home office and absurd always in their favor Alabama schedules and Gary Danielson.

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Dabo built Clemson from the ground up whereas Meyer inherited a gold mine at both Florida and Ohio State

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Urban turned around all the programs he went to. Utah beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl before he left and then Alex Smith was drafted number 1 overall. People forget that before he got to Florida and Ohio State they were having very mediocre to bad seasons.

What Dabo did at Clemson is great in its own right too.

But in fair comparison, Urban went to different programs and made them championship teams. Not saying Dabo couldn't do that, but we won't really know unless he switches schools at some point.

Urban Meyer is a great coach... one of the best all time. He also has a history of leaving with programs in all kinds of dysfunction. When Meyer left UF he had just recruited some of the most talented players in the country on paper. And yet they fell off a cliff in a hurry with all kinds of program turmoil. Meyer is like making a deal with the devil. He will sacrifice anything to win.

Dabo is just a different cat. I don't know if he would find the same success in the SEC or Big 10. I think he would be successful, but I don't know that he would be dominant. I think Dabo errs on the side of bringing in lower rated, higher character kids when he can. He understands that too much entitled or low character talent can spoil a program. You need some of those guys, but outside of Saban at Bama, usually things fall apart if there are too many of those types of egos in the room.

Urban is probably a better coach, but for program building, give me Dabo all day everyday.