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Need some advice for indoor under-counter ice makers...

Posted on 11/26/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24458 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 4:22 pm
Looking for an panel-ready under-counter ice maker for my home...

Scotsman has both the gourmet cube and the chewable ice...heard that the chewable ice maker is more maintenance...any one else hear this?

From what I have learned, Kitchenaid has a nice flat square cube, but I don't think it integrates well with surrounding cabinetry (ie, it jets out so that the door, when opened, doesn't hit the cabinet next to it...I want it so that it look like the wood cabinets next to it).

I know that Subzero, Uline, and others also sell gourmet sized cubes (which are better for cocktails, I suppose). Jennair similar cube to Kitchenaid.

Any thoughts or recommendations?
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 4:28 pm
Posted by NOLATiger71
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
1725 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 4:34 pm to
In my opinion and experience:
1. Buy a commercial unit- all parts are made of metal will last a long time
2. Study the type of ice shape you want oval, mushroom, square, flake or pellet
3. Main purpose for buying the unit- general consumption of cocktails or soft drinks or water?
4. Filter a must! Either made in the unit under the sink heading towards the unit or whole house- water quality will keep ice machine working properly
5. Door panel is an accessory if I recall
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24458 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

Buy a commercial unit-
by commercial, do you mean brands like True, Uline, Perlick?
Posted by DoctorTechnical
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2904 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 4:56 pm to
I'll jump in: big commercial makers are Manitowoc, Scottsman, and Hoshizaki. Fun to read all they can do. Not so fun to read the cost.

Posted by NOLATiger71
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
1725 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 5:04 pm to
Commercial as in:
quote:

Manitowoc, Scottsman, and Hoshizaki.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 5:05 pm
Posted by sstig
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
2874 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:08 pm to
If you buy the cheap one get the extended warranty
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24458 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:35 pm to
Do chewable ice machines require more maintenance/cleaning than the others?
Posted by NOLATiger71
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
1725 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 8:54 pm to
My opinion: All ice machines need maintanance by using de-scalers. Flake and pellet have more moving parts. Water quality is very important. That is why I said a filter is key.

If the intent is to use for cocktails then it’s a toss up on cube type. I have a Hoshizaki mushroom cube- slowest melting type. A tad bit too large for my cocktail glass. If they make a mini mushroom that is what I would go with. Soft drinks and water you can use oval/half moon or cubes.

I love pellet but will water down cocktails faster same with flake. Tiki drinks are meant for pellet.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 9:07 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43361 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Any thoughts or recommendations?

only that the smile on my face after I ripped mine out of the cabinet could be seen from space. way too much trouble to be worth it
Posted by NOLATiger71
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
1725 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:16 am to
Agree. That is why one goes with a commercial unit with a good water filtration system for the ice maker. I built a home with all Kitchen Aid appliances except for the bar ice maker and working solid at 10 years.

When I did my homework on what to purchase a buddy of mine was interested at the same time. We purchased 2 units at the same time and his IM working perfect as well.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 8:24 am
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24458 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:25 am to
which brand/model did you go with?
Posted by NOLATiger71
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
1725 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:38 am to
See my previous post

quote:

I have a Hoshizaki mushroom cube- slowest melting type. A tad bit too large for my cocktail glass. If they make a mini mushroom that is what I would go with

Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:23 am to
Hoshizaki.

We have them at work downstream of a really good filter and that mid-afternoon Coke with the Sonic ice is the tits in the middle of summer.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 9:26 am
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
13110 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:16 pm to
We have a Scotsman 50 that puts out a top hat style cube. Very happy with it, and the ice doesn't melt too fast. We were advised that Sonic style ice melts faster, so we avoided that.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24458 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

We have a Scotsman 50
from what I can tell, it doesn't have a built-in filter like some of the others...do you filter the water before it gets to the ice maker? If so, what filter do you use?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22461 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Looking for an panel-ready under-counter ice maker for my home...


I dare you to post this on the ot.. haha.

I can’t help with the panel because mine have all been hidden in a back corner or what not.

Clear ice the machines do not keep the ice frozen, the ice is made and then insulated. Then it slowly melts. There is no refrigeration. So essentially even if you don’t use it they are always making ice.

The high end brands are better, but they certainly cost it too. Many of them have a 3-5 year warranty, the extended warranty as said are great ideas with them.

I have a KitchenAid that blew a motor and it was about $200 to fix after 4 years of hard use. If I pay that every 3-4 years that’s still cheaper than a hoshizaki.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49126 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:56 pm to
I have a KitchenAid that looks like this.

LINK

I don't know if this is the exact model, but it looks like it. Mine didn't cost that much, though. I think it was about $1200 at the time. I replaced my old KitchenAid about 3 years ago. That one lasted nearly 20 years, amazingly.

This one fits into a cabinet space in my wet bar and has a cabinet door over it just like the other cabinets in the bar.

Most people love the square clear ice, but I prefer the large crescents from my fridge freezer, personally. It's larger, colder and doesn't melt as quickly. Everyone else goes for the ice in the bar icemaker, though. More good ice for me!
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
13110 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:35 pm to
Ours has a filter. But we haven't had the unit long enough to change it. I think there is an air filter as well that needs changing annually.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49126 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:37 pm to
With the new one they installed a separate water filter so I don't have to change it. It was an extra cost of about $300, I think. I don't know the details. I just didn't want to have to fool with any filters.
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