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If Les Takes Kansas Job, Where Would You Rank Him Against B12 Coaches?
Posted on 11/15/18 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 11/15/18 at 3:57 pm
No particular order:
Tom Herman
Gary Patterson
Kliff Kingsbury
Mike Gundy
Lincoln Riley
Bill Snyder
Matt Campbell
Matt Rhule
Dana Holgorsen
Tom Herman
Gary Patterson
Kliff Kingsbury
Mike Gundy
Lincoln Riley
Bill Snyder
Matt Campbell
Matt Rhule
Dana Holgorsen
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 3:58 pm to LuckyTiger
1. Only national champion right?
Posted on 11/15/18 at 3:59 pm to LuckyTiger
He has a better resume than all of those coaches but a lot of those coaches, like Herman, Riley, Patterson, Kingsbury, and Grundy have better offensive philosophies than Miles
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:00 pm to geauxtigers456
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Only national champion right?
Where would you rank Larry Coker?
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:05 pm to sta4ever
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He has a better resume than all of those coaches but a lot of those coaches, like Herman, Riley, Patterson, Kingsbury, and Grundy have better offensive philosophies than Miles
And at LSU, Miles would have shut them down. The problem was he couldn't score enough. But I'll be interested to see how he does recruiting wise at Kansas. It's a different area up there. And as one poster alluded to, he won't be able to come in and raid La.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:06 pm to sta4ever
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He has a better resume than all of those coaches but a lot of those coaches, like Herman, Riley, Patterson, Kingsbury, and Grundy have better offensive philosophies than Miles
And yet none of the have a trophy for “excellent offensive philosophy”
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:10 pm to LSUSoulja08
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And yet none of the have a trophy for “excellent offensive philosophy”
Riley already has a conference title, and if anyone wants a case study for needing to change philosophically on offense in the Big 12 to survive, look at what Gary Patterson went through in 2013 and what he had to do to right the ship the following year.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:10 pm to ibldprplgld
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And at LSU, Miles would have shut them down. The problem was he couldn't score enough. But I'll be interested to see how he does recruiting wise at Kansas. It's a different area up there. And as one poster alluded to, he won't be able to come in and raid La.
Give it a few recruiting cycles and I bet Miles could compete at Kansas. The Miles name will attract recruits, especially defensive players, offensive lineman, tight ends, fullbacks, and running backs. He was always pretty successful at stopping air raid offenses, like we see in the Big 12, and those defenses are so bad that he could lineup and run the ball and be successful. He could build that program up to where they dominate the line of scrimmage because they’d be more physical than any defense they play against. Not saying it will happen but he could have the same philosophy he had at LSU and be successful
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:12 pm to sta4ever
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better offensive philosophies than Miles
That’s the only philosophy in the B12
if anyone can start a shift towards staunch defenses it’s ole LesPosted on 11/15/18 at 4:13 pm to LuckyTiger
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Where would you rank Larry Coker?
Some of the mental gymnastics you guys go thru to shite on Miles is amazing.
Miles was always a better coach than coker.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:16 pm to LuckyTiger
How many others have won a championship?
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:18 pm to geauxtigers456
Lincoln Riley
Gary Patterson
Matt Campbell
Les Miles
Mike Gundy
Tom Herman
Dana Holgorsen
Matt Rhule
Kliff Kingsbury
Bill Snyder
Gary Patterson
Matt Campbell
Les Miles
Mike Gundy
Tom Herman
Dana Holgorsen
Matt Rhule
Kliff Kingsbury
Bill Snyder
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:19 pm to LuckyTiger
Somewhere below a guy with 100 wins.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:21 pm to ibldprplgld
Kansas is dry for talent, as is most of the Plains. Moreover, no elite talent is going to Kansas the way it went to LSU.
He will have to poach quality under the radar talent from Texas. Shrewd evaluation of recruits will be imperative. There is less margin for error. Les can’t do what he did in 2006...sign 6 OL, none of whom ever played a down for LSU. That played a direct role in our OL problems a couple years later but Les still went 7-5. Do that at KU and he’s 3-9.
He will have to poach quality under the radar talent from Texas. Shrewd evaluation of recruits will be imperative. There is less margin for error. Les can’t do what he did in 2006...sign 6 OL, none of whom ever played a down for LSU. That played a direct role in our OL problems a couple years later but Les still went 7-5. Do that at KU and he’s 3-9.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:22 pm to LuckyTiger
I think you have to look at it as who's the best fit for the Kansas job? Les will have them in the Missouri/ Iowa State class in 3-4 years 7-5 with a victory over a top 20 team or a bowl victory most years. He'll run a clean program as well. If he finds a QB, he'll have a very competitive team, but no way will they make a Final Four Championship. How much is that worth to Kansas?
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:31 pm to LSUANDY25
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If he finds a QB
Doesn’t history show he won’t do this?
Les will have to score points to win games. A lot of points. I don’t see it happening for him.
Moreover, he’s not going to have multiple Thorpe and Bednarik Award winners on his defenses at Kansas.
Finally, I think Les is old and warmed over now.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:34 pm to sta4ever
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He has a better resume than all of those coaches but a lot of those coaches, like Herman, Riley, Patterson, Kingsbury, and Grundy have better offensive philosophies than Miles
At this point it's about who has the biggest upside. I think Miles has reached his zenith while those other guys may be improving and developing their chops.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:34 pm to ElectricWizard0
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That’s the only philosophy in the B12 if anyone can start a shift towards staunch defenses it’s ole Les
Gary Patterson coaches in the Big 12. He's pretty good at defense, or at least he was at one time. He hasn't been good at anything this year it seems.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 4:42 pm to LuckyTiger
Les would currently be the 2nd best coach in the SEC just as he was a few years ago.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:02 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
Lol no one thinks that outside of a small group of LSU Pumpers.
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