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A QB "going through progressions" is old methodology. Tua doesn't do it.

Posted on 11/5/18 at 5:59 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 5:59 am
Haskins doesn't do it either. Most top college passing programs have dropped that mess.

They have a primary receiver before the snap. They hit him quick. ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.

Ensminger has Burrow stalled (on every pass play) with a method older than E is. Get rid of the damn ball! Screw the progressions! Elite 2018 QB's make the defense react to them - not the other way around.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 6:01 am
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22507 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:01 am to
I think this is true. But not every good or good enough QB is a Tua.
Posted by userone
Member since Nov 2018
5 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:03 am to
Yea there is something not right with this offense. It look horrible for most of the season. Mr Burrow didn’t handle pressure well. It looked like a les miles defense to me. Coach O was wrong for throwing the players under the bus. He picked a third string reject to be qb
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18159 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:07 am to
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ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.


So... they do go through progressions?
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4309 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:12 am to
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ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.


Man, is that how progressions work?!?

Don’t be niaeve. He doesn’t have him going 1,2,3 back to 1. You can bash E for a lot of things with this game, and the offense all season really, but that’s not one of them.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 6:13 am
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7285 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:12 am to
If you want to succeed in the NFL, which is the goal of every college QB, you better be able to go through your progressions. Pre-snap read is important but that read is no always right.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32902 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:13 am to
In other words,

Scheme
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21701 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:14 am to
quote:

They have a primary receiver before the snap. They hit him quick. ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.



So, your contention is that, in the "old days", the QB didn't have a set place to start his progressions? He just started looking around, willy nilly?

Dude, what you described is how it's always been done.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2027 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:17 am to
This is BS, locking on to your 1st choice will cause a lot more interceptions, and broken up passes.

As far as Bama is concerned, Their WR's get great separation because they are elite, allowing Tua to make easy throws.

The exception was LSU, that's why Bama didn't have 28 points in the 1st quarter as they did in 5 of their other games.
Posted by Bucktail1
Member since Feb 2015
3196 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:37 am to
Drew Brees says hi
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:38 am to
Dwayne Haskins and Tua will be Marcus Mariota and Jamieis Winston in the NFL.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:10 am to
Canada please come back
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:16 am to
You think the LSU QB goes through progressions when the primary target is open?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56517 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:20 am to
‘Tua made a sandwich on three of his drops. Took a nap on the rest
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29438 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:29 am to
It’s almost like Steve hasn’t been an offensive coordinator in 20 years......
Posted by Eriq Killmonger
7th Ward, Wakanda
Member since Sep 2018
424 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:14 am to
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Buckeye Jeaux



quote:

Haskins


Have you conceded to the fact Haskins is indeed better that Burrow? Last time I heard from you, you stated time will show that you were right in your opinion Burrow is better than Haskins. Well some time has passed and I want to know has your opinion changed?
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3432 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:15 am to
This is the dumbest damn thing I've read regarding offense on the rant, and that is pretty bad. You basically say they don't use progressions unless the primary target isn't there. THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF PROGRESSIONS!!!

Burrow just didn't look confident throwing to his primary most of the night and held the ball WAY to long. Against Bama you have 3 seconds if your lucky, and if your primary isn't there you might come to your second progression, but then you're toast if you don't throw it away or have a running lane to scramble.

Burrow's biggest problem against Bama besides the poor protection/blocking was that he lacked confidence to run the ball with authority. He had zone read keeps available and had the chance to tuck and run out of the pocket a few times, but tried to move around and buy time instead. He looked lost, and that's coaching.
Posted by PEABODY32
Everywhere
Member since Feb 2011
1184 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:17 am to
LSU stil haven't adapted to modern day football. If Saban can adapt why can't LSU
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66893 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:17 am to

I know You’re getting downvoted but I agree that we probably ask our QB to do a lot more than most QBs.

A lot of college football is designed plays, RPOs which is a 1 read play, and passing plays that cut the field in half.

If you’re asking a QB to do what they’re doing on Sunday you’re gonna have issues.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10453 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:28 am to
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ONLY if the primary is covered do they go thru progressions.


You just described "going through progressions". Dumb...
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