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Alabama fetal homicide Supreme Court ruling could blow Roe V Wade wide open
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:22 am
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:22 am
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Based Tom Parker taking on the entirety of the baby killing leftists single handedly.
I got three words for you progs, libs, and cucks:
BRETT
frickING
KAVANAUGH
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As the Alabama Supreme Court upheld the state’s fetal homicide law in a ruling this month, one of the justices said the decision should force the U.S. Supreme Court to revisit its 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling. Justice Tom Parker said it is a “logical fallacy” for the government to consider a fetus a life for the purposes of a murder conviction but not when it comes to a woman deciding to end her pregnancy. Even lawyers within the pro-life community were conflicted on whether that is the kind of challenge the high court would — or even should — take up, but they said the dissonance between abortion jurisprudence and other areas of law, where a fetus is granted many of the attributes of personhood, is becoming tenuous.
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Even lawyers within the pro-life community were conflicted on whether that is the kind of challenge the high court would — or even should — take up, but they said the dissonance between abortion jurisprudence and other areas of law, where a fetus is granted many of the attributes of personhood, is becoming tenuous. “Fetal homicide laws acknowledge what science has already proven: that a unique human life begins at the very moment of fertilization. Abortion laws reject that reality,” said Lila Rose, a prominent pro-life advocate and president of Live Action. The case in Alabama involved Jessie Livell Phillips, who was convicted of killing his wife when she was eight weeks pregnant. A jury found him guilty of murder of “two or more persons” by one act, using a 2006 law that defined “person” as including a child in utero. The court sentenced him to death.
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Like other states, Alabama’s 2006 law specifically carves out a woman’s decision to terminate her pregnancy as an exception to fetal protections. Justice Parker called that the “Roe exception.” “I urge the Supreme Court of the United States to reconsider the Roe exception and to overrule this constitutional aberration. Return the power to the states to fully protect the most vulnerable among us,” he wrote in his concurring opinion.
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Lynn Paltrow, executive director of National Advocates for Pregnant Women, cited the cases of a woman who was arrested on attempted-feticide charges after accidentally falling down a stairwell, a woman who served eight years in prison for a stillbirth after a positive test for illegal drugs, and a woman who was arrested after losing her child following a suicide attempt. “The real question is in what manner can women be deprived of their standing as constitutional persons?” Ms. Paltrow said. Yet state laws also have served to give women more of a chance to pursue damages. In the 2012 Alabama ruling, the state Supreme Court said an injured woman could pursue a wrongful death claim for her unborn child. In that case, Justice Parker again said those sorts of state decisions challenge the underpinnings of Roe. In a 2013 case, he wrote the court’s opinion allowing the state to use its chemical endangerment statute to prosecute pregnant mothers for endangering their fetuses through drug use. He also wrote a separate opinion to chide Roe again. In his latest opinion this month, Justice Parker pointed to other cases in which judges have found the unborn can be parties to estate settlements and disputes over trusts, and in which courts have appointed legal guardians for the fetuses to represent their interests in those cases. At least 23 of the more than 30 states that have the death penalty prohibit pregnant women from being put to death, suspending their sentences until the child is born.
Based Tom Parker taking on the entirety of the baby killing leftists single handedly.
I got three words for you progs, libs, and cucks:
BRETT
frickING
KAVANAUGH
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:24 am to bamarep
I never understood how if someone murders a pregnant woman, they are charged with double homicide; but that same woman can murder her own child, and it is legal. I don't think you can have one and not the other.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:25 am to bamarep
More than likely will do away with the fetal homicide laws than doing any harm to abortion in any way...
I am not an abortion supporter, BTW...
I am not an abortion supporter, BTW...
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:25 am to bamarep
The thought of BK writing the opinion on this case could cause RBG to stroke out and change it from 5-4 to 6-3 after her replacement is confirmed
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:26 am to The Maj
THen they'll be letting a shite ton of murders out of prison then.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:28 am to saints5021
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I never understood how if someone murders a pregnant woman, they are charged with double homicide; but that same woman can murder her own child, and it is legal. I don't think you can have one and not the other.
One is a choice and one isn't
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:28 am to bamarep
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THen they'll be letting a shite ton of murders out of prison then.
Possibly, but I imagine most will still have one count of murder against them, except in the rare instance where only the unborn child was killed...
I actually hope this changes abortion but I just don't see it happening, even with the stacked court unfortunately...
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:29 am to saints5021
Me and you both. How does the law know that baby would have been born alive? That's a charge based on assumptions. I thought the law was all about facts.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:30 am to idlewatcher
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One is a choice and one isn't
So you really believe that a mother has the sole decision on whether her child lives or dies?
WTF?
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:30 am to bamarep
Miscarriages may be manslaughter or negligent homicide soon? Interedasting.
Pregnant woman makes a mistake in traffic and loses her baby because of it? Lock her up.
Pregnant woman makes a mistake in traffic and loses her baby because of it? Lock her up.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 9:33 am
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:31 am to idlewatcher
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One is a choice and one isn't
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:32 am to bamarep
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that a unique human life begins at the very moment of fertilization.
No but I don’t know why we can’t come up with a standard for viability and have that be the hard cutoff for both abortions and fetal homicide.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:33 am to bmy
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Miscarriages may be manslaughter or negligent homicide soon
If the miscarriage was due to negligence by the mother or some other person, do you know agree that they should be held accountable?
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:33 am to DallasTiger11
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No but I don’t know why we can’t come up with a standard for viability and have that be the hard cutoff for both abortions and fetal homicide
Oh.. we could. Evangelicals will never let it happen.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:34 am to bamarep
This conservative doesn’t want to revisit Roe v. Wade. We don’t need any more liberals being born.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:37 am to bamarep
You don't truly believe abortion is murder. If you thought that countless babies were being murdered every year, and all you did was bitch about it on a message board, then that tells a lot about you.
Do some research on the abolitionists and see what it takes to actually fight for a cause.
Or just keep whining about it like a bitch.
Do some research on the abolitionists and see what it takes to actually fight for a cause.
Or just keep whining about it like a bitch.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:45 am to BayouBlitz
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You don't truly believe abortion is murder.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 9:48 am to BayouBlitz
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Do some research on the abolitionists and see what it takes to actually fight for a cause.
Keep pushing, it will eventually come to that and I am betting that you and those like you will not fare well at all... May be 20 to 100 years from now but there will be a final push too far...
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