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Network Management - Organizing + adding computers + users

Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30322 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 10:27 am
Hello All,

Does anybody have some insight on managing the computer users and a protocol for adding new computers and users to the network?

For example

I start working and they have a new computer to set up as my work station

The original process:
Create username + Password
Microsoft forces you to create/register an email address

So we were making email address for the computer users but lets say Tom starts this month and leaves next month. Now I have an entire computer system under his name.

What's a more efficient method of doing this process?

Our new windows 10 computers have these Asset Tags, so a though was to just name all these computers under the asset tags instead of the Users names.

Can anybody share some wisdom to manage these a little better?

Thanks
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41837 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 11:40 am to
How many computers in the network? You should use Active Directory.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30322 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 12:00 pm to
We have 25~ now

But we are growing and that's why we want to change these.

A big issue is that we have our own server and we have applications that only apply to it. Everything is set to reconcile a username and password and that grants you access on our network, which in turn allows you access our software on the server

you username in the Local computer And the network would be:

BStalin

Since we get brand new computers, you have to register an email address to set it up. So we would use our domain name and create an email account called

BStalin@xxxxxx.com


But when you leave the company, we change the computer name on the local machine to the next person and then take out the logins for the server as well. When you have as much turn over as we do, you'll find changing computer names every 6 months is tiresome
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41837 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 12:02 pm to
You should definitely be using Active Directory if you are not already.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10098 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 1:21 pm to
Are you trying to do all this in house ? At worst, you should be looking into a local MSP
Posted by shspanthers
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
893 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 1:44 pm to
You don't have to register an address with MS to complete the setup. MS makes it's intentionally obscure and confusing to bypass that, but I've done it many times.

This link shows one way to bypass: LINK

Also, you can disconnect from all networks/wifi during setup and it should skip that part of the process.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30322 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 1:53 pm to
I have to have administrative access for these users. They will need to be admins logging into our server. Not just simple accounts
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31976 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 2:27 pm to
Active. fricking. Directory.
local accounts should be discontinued at around 10-15 accounts per org. Once you hit that many, there are too many changes to make. What if you have to edit a permission for every user? You want to do that 25 times or do it once in the GPO?

Also, no you don't need to tie email addresses to local accounts. Good lord if you didn't know that you shouldn't be the one doing the tech for this org.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30322 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 2:40 pm to
I'm helping the sys admin who says he does not no which direction to take.

I think we need to baby step this.


Question #1: How do big companies handle Microsoft licenses?

A problem we have is when Cody works there for 8 years and then up and leaves and we need to rebuild the machine for Tim cause he starts in 2 days, what's the easiest way to keep and organize my software license?
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2706 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 3:13 pm to
Fire the sysadmin immediately if he does not know about AD.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10098 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

I'm helping the sys admin who says he does not no which direction to take.



lol...@gmail me and I'll be happy to take his place
Posted by Doldil
The Ham
Member since Jan 2010
6214 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31976 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 6:23 pm to
thou shalt not speak ill of lord nikkon
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6782 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:22 pm to
As others said, use AD.

For naming conventions, you can name the PCs using asset ids or by the phone extension. I prefer the phone extension bc when I pull up AD, I know where a certain pc may be located. If there are PCs than phone extensions just use descriptive names (i.e. receptionist-pc , OpMgr-pc, etc)
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19224 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

Tim cause he starts in 2 days, what's the easiest way to keep and organize my software license?


Have a server side KMS and network windows image with all of your software on the image

You're getting scammed by your system admin. You should have been using AD a long time ago
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 6:54 am
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:19 pm to
fire sysadmin and go hire a managed service provider immediately. this guy doesnt have a clue if he hasn't figured this out.


if your attached to him tell him to start learning microsoft services like azure ad and move to cloud cause he sure as hell shouldn't be running infrastructure
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80590 posts
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

How do big companies handle Microsoft licenses?


Enterprise agreements.

If I were you guys I would just go Office365 and use local AD or Azure AD.

And fire your Sysadmin immediately.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 9:23 pm
Posted by BadMrK
Addis, La
Member since Dec 2016
148 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 3:39 pm to
Like others are saying, you need active directory. Your workstations will need Win10 Pro to be able to join the domain. Figure out a naming convention for your workstations, they don't need to, nor should they be named with their users name. Use a generic local username. All my PC's on each site have the same local user account name. The end user will never see the local account in an AD environment. They will use their AD account.

When setting up a new workstation, if you are using Win10 Pro, it should give you an option to set up the PC on a domain. With that option, you will not be forced to create and register an email.

All user accounts will be made and managed through AD. If a workstation is joined to the domain, anyone with an AD account in your domain will be able to log into it with their account. You can manage the accounts' admin rights through AD.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2510 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:45 pm to
if you're looking for a managed service partner shoot me a PM. I'll be glad to assist you guys.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17672 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

lol...@gmail me and I'll be happy to take his place



Pretty sure if this place paid well, they'd already have a legit sysadmin

What a clusterfrick
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