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Why can’t we use Chase in the slot?

Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:35 am
Posted by Eatem up
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2017
580 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:35 am
I read where they were moving Kirkland to the slot to try to increase production there. Why not put Chase there at least for this season? He’s big, thick, fast and has great hands. He would be a tough matchup and would get more touches. He needs to get Giles’ touches IMO.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:43 am to
Because “experience”. It’s the same reason they rather start Magee and Campbell over Hines. It makes no sense
Posted by chipdouglas96
C-Town
Member since Jun 2011
895 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:45 am to
it should be Jefferson, Chase and Sullivan. Then Marshall and Anderson. The rest should play sparingly
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54066 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:47 am to
Moscona interviewed Wendell Davis about Sullivan last week.
He's a hard arse. If you don't do everything right, he's not going to put you out there.
I'm guessing that's it.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34150 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:53 am to
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Moscona interviewed Wendell Davis about Sullivan last week.
He's a hard arse. If you don't do everything right, he's not going to put you out there.
I'm guessing that's it.


So the converse is to have guys who run good routes, but can't get separation or make natuarally athletic plays?

There has to be a balance. Maybe Chase doesn't run precise routes yet. Maybe he doesn't understand the entire offensive philosophy yet, but he's probably the most naturally gifted playmaker LSU has at the WR spot. You're telling me that the "brain trust" can't design 5 plays to get him the ball in space?

Bad coaches have an overall philosophy and try to force everyone to fit it. Good coaches figure out what their guys are best at and change their approach to fit the players.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60725 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:56 am to
quote:

it should be Jefferson, Chase and Sullivan. Then Marshall and Anderson. The rest should play sparingly

this, this, this.

Receivers are like running backs. They need to get in a rhythm.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33816 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:59 am to
quote:

He's a hard arse. If you don't do everything right, he's not going to put you out there.
I'm guessing that's it.
and we have a winner
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 10:25 am to
quote:

He's a hard arse. If you don't do everything right, he's not going to put you out there.
I'm guessing that's it.

that's the main problem with old guys. They are stuck in their ways, and nothing is going to change it. No flexibility.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11780 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 10:30 am to
quote:

There has to be a balance. Maybe Chase doesn't run precise routes yet. Maybe he doesn't understand the entire offensive philosophy yet, but he's probably the most naturally gifted playmaker LSU has at the WR spot.


I was listening to Spurrier on the radio a few months back and he was talking about a guy he had at UF that was by far the best athlete on the team but the OC kept telling spurrier that the kid wasn’t ready to contribute cuz he didn’t know the plays.

Spurriers response: “then teach him one play and run that. Next week he’ll know two plays, and so on.”

As a coach, sometimes you need to make concessions to get the best players on the field. If a guy doesn’t know everything, teach him something and use him for that.

Posted by geauxdroddz
Member since Nov 2016
2115 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 10:32 am to
What I don't follow is ...isn't dropping the ball consistently the same as not doing shite right ?

Giles has 32 yards this year ...

W T F!?
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7974 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 10:32 am to
Made a thread abt exactly this and got roasted. Interesting
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60725 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 10:34 am to
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If you don't do everything right, he's not going to put you out there.
Maybe that is right for the pro game, you can fire one and go get another off of waivers. In college you got to work with young men who may have come from programs with zero football instruction.

These young men will not be perfect, but give me a break, natural ability trumps most everything else.

If Sullivan is demanding these college receivers be perfect, he is going to be an unhappy man for his tenure here.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60725 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 10:35 am to
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teach him something and use him for that.


Russell Shepard learned the jet sweep. And we ran it every single time he got on the field.
Posted by sbrink2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2016
7 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 12:16 pm to
It's a terrible thing to watch so much talent get wasted. What's even worse is watching how many points we leave out there because we don't have playmakers in the game like Chase smh
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19588 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 12:17 pm to
They should be trying to get the ball to Chase however they can. Slot, punt returns, it doesn't matter. Just get the ball in his hands.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33897 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Moscona interviewed Wendell Davis about Sullivan last week.
He's a hard arse. If you don't do everything right, he's not going to put you out there.
I'm guessing that's it.



So you find what he does well and integrate that into your system.

What was this whole thing I kept hearing about this offseason, we were going to design plays for the talent we have?? Chase is a talent that needs to be on the field.

Instead some rigid old coach born in the 40s can't find a way to use him and we have Giles out there who looks like he's running with cinderblocks for cleats.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4529 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 12:34 pm to
I've been saying that the last couple of weeks, or at least put Jefferson there and put Chase in Jefferson's spot.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 12:50 pm to
I would much rather see Chase run screens and jet sweeps than Giles. I hate that there seems to be so much negativity directed at Giles, but you have to perform at this level. Right now, he's the sore thumb.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4529 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 1:03 pm to
Not hating on Giles, he just isn't an SEC caliber player. He's the weakest link on offense like Battle is to the defense. Those are just the facts.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12438 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 1:26 pm to
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He's a hard arse. If you don't do everything right, he's not going to put you out there.


The image of Iverson saying "Practice! We're talkin' 'bout practice" comes to mind. There are practice players and there are guys who ball out when they lace 'em up and the lights come on.

Chase has had three huge, athletic catches thus far in limited time. Giles? Nada. Zip. Zero.
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