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re: BOOM! Executive Order draft opens door to antitrust probe of Google, FB, Twit, others

Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:03 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:03 am to
Yeah, this isn't complicated. I don't understand people thinking this is a free speech issue.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20966 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:03 am to
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Yes. *I* could. But the majority of people in this country live and breathe all of these platforms and aren't savvy to this manipulation.


Honestly I am a happier person not knowing every minutae of other peoples lives since I deleted facebook.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124864 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:03 am to
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They say there is no systematic effort to silence conservative voices.


Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:04 am to
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In fact, government acting on their discrimination is a first amendment violation


I agree.. but where do you draw the line? Does an ISP have the first amendment right to edit the content a company posts? Could Comcast redirect people away from pro-Alex Jones websites?

Title II isn't the best way to do it.. but this is why net neutrality proponents want data to be treated equally.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:05 am to
Completely agree with you.

But if I am using your logic: why don't anti-abortionists just not have abortions and stay away from Planned Parenthood?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263099 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:05 am to
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Honestly I am a happier person not knowing every minutae of other peoples lives since I deleted facebook.


People use facebook wrong. I delete people, and don't have to worry about this annoying habit.
Posted by BogeyGolf
Minot
Member since Nov 2016
974 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:07 am to
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have yet to see evidence that they are selectively targeting non-political advertising from conservative businesses and promoting liberal businesses instead.
anectodotal, but having used FB advertising for business, I promise you, if the money is coming in they don’t give a frick. I love advertising on FB. You should play around with it for your business.

And yes, everyone who has an account is a product, not a customer. Almost every website you go to has coding on it letting Facebook know every last thing you do. And they can help put you in front of advertisers that are marketing to people with your interests and behavior, fact.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:07 am to
Truth is.. capitalism without intelligent oversight is just a different form of tyranny
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20966 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:08 am to
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But if I am using your logic: why don't anti-abortionists just not have abortions and stay away from Planned Parenthood?


Religion & their morality mostly.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263099 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:09 am to
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capitalism without intelligent oversight is just a different form of tyranny


No, its not.

Corporatism is.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24757 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:10 am to
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And you apparently agree with what happened to the bakers



So did you
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13585 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:11 am to

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bmy


I don’t think I’ve EVER seen you post more than one or two sentences that bring absolutely nothing to the thread you’re posting in.

All TDS and no substance, very hard to take seriously. I guess if you never have an opinion and hold no values then those mean Trumpkins (only a douche would still find this clever) on the Poliboard can never disagree with you and hurt your little feelings, huh?

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:11 am to
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Jesus Christ


I don't include you in that comment btw. I was specifically thinking about you (and LSURussian maybe) in the small but vocal group that supports the net neutrality repeal and would likely oppose this EO.
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 10:12 am
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:11 am to
This is how some feel about FB. Not so much the censorship, but the underlying practices of tracking, facial recognition software, and psychological influence. It is dangerous for any one entity to have the ability to insert alogrithms at any time for nefarious purposes.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:12 am to
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So did you

Wrong, bitch
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263099 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:13 am to
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Does an ISP have the first amendment right to edit the content a company posts? Could Comcast redirect people away from pro-Alex Jones websites?


No, this is beyond blocking. It's misrepresenting.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:13 am to
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This is how some feel about FB. Not so much the censorship, but the underlying practices of tracking, facial recognition software, and psychological influence. It is dangerous for any one entity to have the ability to insert alogrithms at any time for nefarious purposes.
Then they shouldn't voluntarily sign up for the privilege to use the platform
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20966 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:13 am to
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People use facebook wrong. I delete people, and don't have to worry about this annoying habit.


Most people dont realize that the reason why facebook is free is because they (the users and their friends, demographic data, locstion, buying habits, political views, financial data, etc) are the product.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:14 am to
“If you do not like Facebook, quit using. Do not demand that the government change it to suit you.”

What if a person likes the idea of a social platform but doesn’t like the only one available? Where do they go to get a product that they want but is non existent in the marketplace because the one that they don’t like has closed the door to competition. You say “well quit using it” but there is not another option for consumers who, in this modern age, not only want but often times need the service. We are not talking about a hover board manufacturer here.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 10:14 am to
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No, its not.

Corporatism is.


A different form of tyranny*
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