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Burrow Holding the Ball Too Long

Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Nolaughingmatter
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:22 pm
I know the O line needs to give Burrow more time but that's probably not going to improve dramatically in just a week. Burrow has had 3 near fumbles in only 44 attempts. Luckily his arm was moving forward slightly on all 3 but the man has got to make some changes quickly. To beat Auburn, he's going to have to run more, have a clock in his head when he's in the pocket, throw deep 50/50 balls and trust the receivers to either catch it or play defense if underthrown, and lastly he will need to shorten his release. That's a lot to change in one week but I think there is more hope in this happening than a major improvement in pass protection. With all of this said, if struggles, give Brennan a chance.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:23 pm to
O-line was arse last week, but you are definitely right about him holding the ball too long at times.
Posted by whitefoot
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

When you watched the film of Saturday, how much of the negative plays were protection-related and how much was it holding the ball too long?

"It was a little of both. It kind of goes hand-in-hand with every single pass play. When protection isn’t great I have to get the ball out of my hands faster. When I hold the ball a little longer they need to be a little firmer up front."

Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:27 pm to
I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying, but what exactly is a "near fumble"? It sounds similar to a "near touchdown" to me.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:28 pm to
almost every good Qb we have had has done this and had to learn and work though it. we saw it with russell, mauck, flynn, etc.
Posted by LSUFreek
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:33 pm to
Drew Brees can release the ball in 1.9 seconds. So he’s special.

Most NFL QB’s generally have up to almost 3 seconds before you get pressured or sacked.

In college, you can get by with almost 4 seconds before you get sacked.

Burrow is right on that 3.9-to-4+ second release average. He needs to have a clock go off in his head at about 3.5 seconds.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 10:34 pm
Posted by Nolaughingmatter
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:34 pm to
A near fumble to me is when it's so close that your stuck trusting the officials to make the right decision and if you keep doing it, the near fumbles will soon be fumbles. And, he's going to get his arm ripped off.
Posted by whitefoot
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:36 pm to
Only one of those was close in my book.
Posted by Nolaughingmatter
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:36 pm to
I think he better assume he won't have long and get rid of the ball quick, fast, and in a hurry.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 11:27 pm
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:36 pm to
Give Brennan a chance on the road at Auburn??? Holy f*ck you’re not serious.
Posted by whitefoot
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:42 pm to
Burrow has also shown the ability to make very fast decisions. In fact, I can count the number of times he held the ball too long on one hand.

And the incompletion where he got hit against Miami was not one of those.
Posted by Nolaughingmatter
Nola
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:42 pm to
3.5 seconds may have been okay last week but I'm hoping most of his throws are out at 3.0 against Auburn and hopefully get some nice tuck-and-runs to keep them honest.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 11:35 pm
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:45 pm to
I got nervous just watching him hold on to it. Give some credit to the coverage on some of that.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:45 pm to
Receivers need to get out of jams
Posted by Tigerbait8
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:46 pm to
We used to bitch about Jefferson having a 2 second clock in his head before he’d tuck it and run. Now it’s we’re holding on to it too long! Lol I agree though. We need to get better at getting the ball out on time, getting open, and pass pro.
Posted by Nolaughingmatter
Nola
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:46 pm to
I agree that it takes experience and unfortunately Burrow doesn't have much yet. I think he will be very good in time but hoping it will happen faster than with most QB's. It does happen but very rare.
Posted by Jack Crevalle
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:48 pm to
I was totally on board with your post, until the end.


quote:

With all of this said, if struggles, give Brennan a chance.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Member since Mar 2016
11777 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:54 pm to
I'd agree. Now Ensminger needs to hold up his half of it and call some plays that help Burrow do just that. I went back and re-watched the Southeastern game. There were plenty of times where their corners were playing well off LSU's WRs, but we never threw any quick routes to them. The one exception was Chase's touchdown, where he made a couple moves to score. That is exactly what they need to be doing. LSU has some playmakers at the WR position. We need to get the ball to them quickly and in space to let them work.
Posted by 7Tiger7
Down South
Member since Jul 2015
3394 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:29 pm to
There was a 3rd & 15 and Burrow passed it to Stephen Sullivan, who ran a quick 5 yd comeback. He then proceeded to out-muscle/ stiff arm the DB 10+ yds to get the 1st..... gotta give the WRs the ball and let them make plays especially if DBs were in off coverage.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Nolaughingmatter
Nola
Member since Aug 2018
743 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

I was totally on board with your post, until the end. 


Haha, yeah I'm not totally on board with that part either but if it gets bad and how seems lost, the worst thing you can do is to just keep everything the same.
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