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re: Elon Musk says we're probably living in a simulation
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:23 am to CelticDog
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:23 am to CelticDog
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Creator god is a myth purposed to give a sense of knowing about what is actually Mystery. No one knows anything about creation and if some claim to they are just repeating unprovable fairy tales. I recommend the book, the gnosticon by adi da. Detailed examination of how perception is made into "me". The very idea of you as person is as much a myth as creator god, and the ve
It’s a shame some one as old as you still doesn’t Know God. Your eternity is at risk. I pray you get right before your time comes
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:27 am to CivilTiger83
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Azkiger, do you believe our universe had an origin? Do you subscribe to the Big Bang Theory?
I have no clue, and yes I do subscribe to the Big Bang Theory but that doesn't claim that our Universe had an origin. It just describes how our Universe became to look like what we see now. Keep in mind, the Big Bang Theory starts off with all the Universe's matter pressed into one tiny ball. It doesn't say where that matter came from.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:30 am to CivilTiger83
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Does your own experience and scientific intuition tell you that something can come from nothing?
You are saying that “something which came from nothing” is god
All I’m saying is why couldn’t it be the universe
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:31 am to ThinePreparedAni
Really realistic movies are no where close to mimicking reality.
Imagine someone knocked you out and you woke up in that theater, would you know you were in a theater? That's pretty much the test...
Imagine someone knocked you out and you woke up in that theater, would you know you were in a theater? That's pretty much the test...
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:51 am to jorconalx
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as you still doesn’t Know God. Your eternity is at risk. I pray you get right before your time comes
explain to class how you know God.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:22 am to Azkiger
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I have no clue, and yes I do subscribe to the Big Bang Theory but that doesn't claim that our Universe had an origin.
So you don't think there was ever a beginning to the Universe and matter?
If you can only state that you don't know, then on what authority are you to make a claim of certainty that there was never a beginning?
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:23 am to WaWaWeeWa
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You are saying that “something which came from nothing” is god
All I’m saying is why couldn’t it be the universe
No... I did not jump to that conclusion... I only asked, does your own experience and scientific intuition tell you that something can come from nothing?
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:24 am to CivilTiger83
quote:Actually, yeah.
No... I did not jump to that conclusion... I only asked, does your own experience and scientific intuition tell you that something can come from nothing?
Because, by definition, if you go back down chain far enough, that seems to be the only possible option.
Whether the "something" from nothing was a universe or God, same same.
Playing the, "well God has always been" card is a cop out that has no more basis in logic or intuition than anything else.
Just because something from nothing is too large a concept for the human mind to genuinely grasp doesn't really change that either there was ALWAYS something, or, something came from nothing.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:45 pm to CivilTiger83
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So you don't think there was ever a beginning to the Universe and matter? If you can only state that you don't know, then on what authority are you to make a claim of certainty that there was never a beginning?
I do not know, and I never claimed to know. I only brought up criticisms of what you've said so far. Criticisms that have not even been addressed because you're trying to dig at what I think/believe instead of defending your own words/claims.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:52 pm to cajuncarguy
This is nothing new. (This tweet was about the simulation hypothesis.)
Needless to say, Elon's re-upped on the crazy since then.
Needless to say, Elon's re-upped on the crazy since then.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 1:58 pm to cajuncarguy
In the fetal position with drool on my chin, I'll never smoke weed with Rogan again
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:02 pm to CivilTiger83
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No... I did not jump to that conclusion... I only asked, does your own experience and scientific intuition tell you that something can come from nothing?
I think my answer is irrelevant. I’m failing to see what you are trying to prove.
“The universe” can take the place of “god” in any possible scenario you create.
And I don’t think I’ve proven anything at all. I’m just trying to illuminate how you really don’t have any proof that an unmoved mover has to be an intelligent “god”.
But I would be happy to be convinced otherwise
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:06 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:you've been hitting a doob with Rogan too haven't you
proof that an unmoved mover has to be an intelligent “god”.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:06 pm to CivilTiger83
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does your own experience and scientific intuition tell you that something can come from nothing?
In addition, if we go by what our own experience any scientific intuition tell us well then history says we aren’t very good at making assumptions based on that
How many billions of people thought a drop of pond water was irrelevant until someone looked at it under a microscope?
How many billions of people thought the earth was the center of the universe before we developed telescopes?
Our intuition is actually very poor, so I don’t think that’s a good reason for belief
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:09 pm to ShortyRob
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Whether the "something" from nothing was a universe or God, same same.
Disagree. The limited data we do have on the universe says that it is expanding from a singularity event that occurred in finite space and time.
Infinity is a mental concept, but there is no physical manifestation that has an infinite property. So you are believing in something we have no evidence for... why?
Einstein's Theory of Relativity showed that time and space are interconnected and that time is a thing much like space. Which means that whatever is capable of marshalling the forces and matter needed for the big bang can create time itself... if this force can create time, it can be outside of time. At a certain point you have to recognize that we are limited in understanding such a force in the same way that an ant is limited in understanding our ability to reason.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:12 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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“The universe” can take the place of “god” in any possible scenario you create.
How so? How would a universe create itself?
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:22 pm to CivilTiger83
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At a certain point you have to recognize that we are limited in understanding such a force in the same way that an ant is limited in understanding our ability to reason.
Michio Kaku agrees.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:22 pm to CelticDog
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CelticDog
you sound like that old poster here who had the HOUSEMATE
what was his name?
OTTO THE DUMMY?????
Posted on 9/10/18 at 2:54 pm to CivilTiger83
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How so? How would a universe create itself?
It wouldn’t. That’s the definition of an unmoved mover, or something that has always been.
If you use the same reasoning, how would a god create itself?
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