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re: Is there a difference between "Impeached" and "Removed from office through impeachment"?

Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
64408 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:22 pm to
Bill Clinton was impeached but not removed from office.
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6138 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:26 pm to
"weak reasons." Slick Willy lying to a grand jury is not a weak reason to impeach.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:32 pm to


It will take a couple dozen house republicans. One or two gop will co sponsor.

It can not get out of committee unless its obviously true.
After the next round of trials someone will be in mourning.

The Orange one is doomed.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49574 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:35 pm to
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After the next round of trials someone will be in mourning.


So not one week, like you said yesterday?
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 5:36 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
35847 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:00 pm to
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So impeachment is nothing more than a political victory. We know he won’t be removed.



Woe be unto those that cross DJT and lose. One certainty that will come from this, is that Sessions and Rosenstein are gone after the mid terms.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:00 pm to
No

Neither is happening
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
18371 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:27 pm to
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You know. You would think it would be pretty common knowledge. But so many people that I debated politics with that “knew” their shite believed that the only impeached President was Nixon and that Clinton wasn’t impeached because he wasn’t removed from office.
Nixon resigned, not removed, so those "know shite" people are dumber than a box of rocks.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:54 pm to
Yes, there's a difference. Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury among other things, but he (obviously) remained in office.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27063 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:00 pm to
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the dims are not even attempting an impeachment. Dims like talking about impeachment. They know full well impeaching or attempting to impeach Trump would massively get out the vote for him. Dims are stupid, but they aren't that stupid.


You can also throw in the fact that the Dems aren't eager to have Mike Pence in the Oval Office.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
82379 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:24 pm to
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The Orange one is doomed.


I thought he was gonna be doomed by last March, Otto.

I mean, that WAS your prediction. Care to address that?
Posted by Radler_the_weinerdog
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:33 pm to
You really are down to the shards of your ability to defend this misanthrope, aren’t you?
It couldn’t happen to a better bitch.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:34 pm to
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But so many people that I debated politics with that “knew” their shite believed that the only impeached President was Nixon


He wasn't even impeached, he resigned his office because the writing was on the wall. Ford then issued a full pardon so that the country could move on.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
64408 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:48 pm to
B.B. has lots of chards
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49574 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:51 pm to
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You really are down to the shards of your ability to defend this misanthrope, aren’t you? It couldn’t happen to a better bitch.


haven’t kept up with the news today, have you? Keep that hope alive, brother
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49574 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:52 pm to
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B.B. has lots of chards


Should I be offended or flattered? I’m confused!
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
64118 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:53 pm to
Not specifically directed at you, Winston, but in a general sense, it scares the shite out of me that Americans from all walks of life have to ask the question, because that means they don't know.

Then again, half of the country keeps talking about saving our "democracy" so all bet are off.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:08 pm to
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And even if impeached, but not convicted Trump can run for re-election in 2020 and probably get a boost in voter turnout as payback to the dems for the impeachment dog and pony show.



believe the senate can vote after the removal vote to bar someone from holding public office ... there's probably some legal/constitutional murkiness there, however ...
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39864 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:11 pm to
There were plenty of better reasons to impeach him if they wanted to go that route. The public saw it as the Republicans being petty and impeaching him over jizzing on a dress.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
90939 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:30 pm to
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The Democrats can vote to "impeach" Trump, presumably starting in the House.


In fact, only 2 Presidents (both Democrats) have been impeached. Andrew Johnson only narrowly avoided being removed from office.

William Jefferson Clinton was impeached, but had a far more solidly partisan vote behind him (no Democrat voted for impeachment or removal) PLUS 5 Rs on 1 charge and 10 on the other.

Richard Nixon is the only President, thus far, that I believe would have been impeached and removed had he not resigned.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
90939 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:30 pm to
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Slick Willy lying to a grand jury is not a weak reason to impeach.


He also encouraged Lewinsky to lie under oath, while both a licensed attorney and the chief executive of the United States.
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