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CNN: Michael Cohen is not going to cooperate with government
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:39 pm
So much for him “flipping”
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So this is just opening up his options. He is not giving up info?
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:43 pm to YankeeBama
Taking a plea deal means not having to go through the expensive trial process
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Huh?
What the frick kind of plea deal is this? Cohen doesn't "flip" or rat anyone out......oh yeah Gubmit deal...got it
What the frick kind of plea deal is this? Cohen doesn't "flip" or rat anyone out......oh yeah Gubmit deal...got it
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:49 pm to Wtodd
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Huh?
What the frick kind of plea deal is this? Cohen doesn't "flip" or rat anyone out......oh yeah Gubmit deal...got it
Uh what? Prosecutors do this ALL OF THE TIME. Why risk a jury trial to get 10 years or possibly 0 years , if the defendant is thinking "why risk 10 years when I can accept 2?" Happens ALL the time.
In fact more plea deals happen this way then happen because the person is getting a light sentence in exchange for information about someone else, FAR more.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
twitter thinks that he is flipping on Trump for sures Maddow told them so.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:56 pm to cajunangelle
Twitter is crazy. OP is correct. Great news for Trump. I was never concerned about muh Russia, but SDNY could have been problematic.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:57 pm to cajunangelle
I think both the SC and Cohen see how risky a trail would be by looking at how screwed up the Manafort trial has become.
Both take their "win" and plead out.
More surprised at how many of these are financial crimes and how nothing is tied to politics...
Both take their "win" and plead out.
More surprised at how many of these are financial crimes and how nothing is tied to politics...
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:57 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Or get pardoned.. lol
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:57 pm to cajunangelle
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twitter thinks that he is flipping on Trump for sures Maddow told them so.
That was a night to behold!
Posted on 8/21/18 at 12:58 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Uh what? Prosecutors do this ALL OF THE TIME.
But it's being touted as a plea deal as in Cohen will give them something for less time in jail/probation/etc.
quote:
Prosecutors do this ALL OF THE TIME
I know
quote:
Why risk a jury trial to get 10 years or possibly 0 years , if the defendant is thinking "why risk 10 years when I can accept 2?" Happens ALL the time.
Again yes I know
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:01 pm to Wtodd
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But it's being touted as a plea deal
That is what a pleas deal is
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as in Cohen will give them something for less time in jail/probation/etc.
This is something different. This is more along the lines of a sentencing deal.
So, I am charged with Murder (facing Life).....I deal to Manslaughter (Facing 15 to 25)….I agree to help prosecutor by testifying against the one who paid me(Sentence recommendation of 15 with parole chance at 5)
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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CNN: Michael Cohen is not going to cooperate with government
So much for him “flipping”
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So what's Cohen going to testify to? That Donald Trump payed off Karen McDougal 10 years ago?
WTF cares?
WTF cares?
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Lol at Tigerindc09
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:08 pm to Wtodd
quote:that's what you get when you have a bad case. Da doesn't want an L on his scorecard, accused didn't want to drain life savings paying for a trial defense
Huh?
What the frick kind of plea deal is this? Cohen doesn't "flip" or rat anyone out......oh yeah Gubmit deal...got it
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:28 pm to Wtodd
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But it's being touted as a plea deal as in Cohen will give them something for less time in jail/probation/etc.
You are confused sir. A plea deal is ANY TIME a defendant agrees to plead guilty in exchange for a certain sentence. The motivation for accepting the deal is irrelevant.
Now, that being said, it is certainly true that some in the media are once again being dishonest and pretending that simply because a plea deal was reached that proves that Cohen flipped on the President.
In actuality that's not how that works at all. Prosecutors normally do one of two things when they want testimony from one person about another person. Either they A) offer full immunity (and you can bet someone who had proof that Trump committed a crime would be offered full immunity) or they secure a conviction and then offer a recommendation for reduced sentencing, rarely is the plea deal ever used to get cooperation, if ever because why would someone agree to spend ANY time in prison in exchange for proof that the President, in this case, committed a crime? NO one one, any reasonable lawyer would say "nah nah we get immunity if you want that"
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because he got nothing on trump and they are only interested in taking down Trump.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
MSNBC is now reporting that this is in relation to the Trump hush money.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 1:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
If Trump didn't do anything wrong, then why does it even matter what Cohen does?
If theres a possibility he could "flip", then Trump did something wrong. If not, what is everyone worried about?
If theres a possibility he could "flip", then Trump did something wrong. If not, what is everyone worried about?
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