re: 8-4 regular season is the floor... here's why

It depends on what you mean by "floor".

If floor = the worst record conceivable by LSU, then that number is 3-9. That happens if LSU loses to Miami, loses to Auburn and the team loses faith in the coaches and quits. (BTW - Oregeron still keeps his job in that scenario. I don't know what happens to Alleva).

If floor = the worst record we should expect from LSU and it keep its HC and AD, then yes, 8-4 is the floor.

People are just rationalizing when they think there is no way LSU could lose more than 4 games this year based on information from prior teams and prior coaching staffs.

We know from Archer, Hallman, and DiNardo (and Johnny Jones for that matter) that it can get ugly really fast and it can be really difficult to rebuild a winning program once it gets destroyed.

Agreed. If O goes 6-6 it is very possible he is gone.

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8-4 regular season is the floor... here's why

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Sure, but this season has 9 wins written all over it. There are too many uncertainties with too difficult of a schedule for us to have a magical season.

I expect we'll be competitive in every game (unlike last year's Mississippi State and Alabama game) and I don't think we'll have any embarrassing moments (thanks O for that Troy game), but I see 9 wins. Losses to Auburn, Alabama, and someone else - Georgia, Miami, A&M, Florida?

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The schedule Lack of confidence in staff At least two (A&M and Florida), and possibly 4 (State and Arkansas) of our opponents should be better than they were when we played them a year ago.

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Two of the three you listed can be applied every single season

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I disagree. I think only one of these was applicable last year (lack of confidence in staff). Going into last year, I expected the floor to be 10 wins. The schedule was favorable and outside of Auburn getting Stidham, I didn't feel like anyone would be markedly better than they were in 2016.

This year, wins/losses expectations are lower, IMO, for the following reasons:

1) Confidence in coaching staff has gotten lower
The State, Troy and Notre Dame losses last year should have raised warning flags to even the most optimistic fans (Ree, Brutus and TTT excluded)

2) Schedule is extremely tough on paper
I can't remember going into a season where we have 4 top 10 teams on the schedule where we weren't ranked in or near the top 10 as well. You can say our schedule is always tough, but this is relative. Yeah, our schedule is always tough compared to teams in other conferences, but the 2016 and 2017 schedules weren't particularly daunting when compared to this year's schedule.

3) Texas A&M should be better. Florida should be much better. Mississippi state might be better as they return a lot of guys from the team that beat us 37-7. Arkansas might be better.

Tigerballs14
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So much national cred And where is Miles coaching this year.........

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Thanks for joining to post this. We're all definitely better off.

Never give up TM. I find it hilarious as well.

not so sure I'd say defense is for sure better than 2014... 2014 D was top 3 in the country

But Les was coaching then...O is now. While people can mock Les, and I was one of them, he always won 8 games even with his crappy teams. Can't say the same for O.

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I think people pretty much knew what to expect from the LSU offense in 2014: “Their QBs can’t beat us through the air; stack the box.”

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Its a shame that most fans on here can't see what was going on from 2014 to 2016..................


They will defend Miles to the end................

Movable goal post.....much lower when you are a fan of the coach and not the team.....