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re: 2016 Trump Tower Meeting looks Increasingly like a Setup by Russian and Clinton Operatives

Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14287 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:28 pm to
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You weren’t aware the dossier was the basis of the fisa warrant? Amazing how you can be ignorant of that fact yet still opine like you have some insight.

You are really slow on the uptake. 98% of America knows that.

Google sarcasm. It will help you out.

I'll try again:

Do you think they were planning all this stuff from the get go so they could use the dossier to get a FISA warrant on October 19, 2016?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124675 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:30 pm to
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Do you think they were planning all this stuff from the get go so they could use the dossier to get a FISA warrant on October 19, 2016?
Asked and answered.

What do you think they were planning all this stuff for?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14287 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:31 pm to
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And so you think they were planning all this stuff from the get go so they could use the dossier to get a FISA warrant in late October 2016?

Correct.


17 days before the election. What could they do with it before the election?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124675 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:33 pm to
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What could they do with it before the election?
You tell me. That is your thesis, not mine.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
29023 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:33 pm to
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How could that group of people been assembled for the "set-up" meeting as is being alleged?

It’s not complicated at all. Simpson has his client contacts, Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin, who both worked for Prevezon, to reach out to Emin Agalarov via Goldstone to set it up. It appears Goldstone and Emin were simply unknowing trying to help by facilitating. Simpson even testified as to being with Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin that morning and the next night at a dinner party.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:38 pm to
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What could they do with it before the election?


Listen and surveil every piece of communication of their political opponents.

And part of this isn’t because of what they’d learn. Part of this is just because they could. It’s the Obama administration. From the IRS to DOE to HHS to the FBI to DOJ. Chicago comes to Washington.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14287 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:39 pm to
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It’s not complicated at all. Simpson has his client contacts, Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin, who both worked for Prevezon, to reach out to Emin Agalarov via Goldstone to set it up. It appears Goldstone and Emin were simply unknowing trying to help by facilitating.

Tell me, what's in it for Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin and Kaveladze to be at the meeting (and BTW you didn't account for how Kaveladze got there).
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49011 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:40 pm to
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Do you think they were planning all this stuff from the get go so they could use the dossier to get a FISA warrant on October 19, 2016?


Clearly.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14287 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:43 pm to
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Do you think they were planning all this stuff from the get go so they could use the dossier to get a FISA warrant on October 19, 2016?

Clearly.

It's incredible the stupid stuff you will go along with to make everything fit.

What were they going to do with the FISA warrant 17 days before the election?
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
Bogata
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:45 pm to
So this is what desperation looks like?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
29023 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:46 pm to
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Tell me, what's in it for Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin and Kaveladze to be at the meeting (and BTW you didn't account for how Kaveladze got there).
Kaveladze accompanied Agalarov.
V and A, favor or quid pro quo to Simpson. They were in the US lobbying congress and others against the Magnitsky Act anyway, so what’s the harm in one more meeting about it as far as they were concerned? Help out a friend and spread the word a little more.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14287 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:47 pm to
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Listen and surveil every piece of communication of their political opponents.

And part of this isn’t because of what they’d learn. Part of this is just because they could. It’s the Obama administration. From the IRS to DOE to HHS to the FBI to DOJ. Chicago comes to Washington.


And what good would that do them?

And why didn't they just come out and leak the bad stuff to the press instead. Game over.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124675 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:47 pm to
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What were they going to do with the FISA warrant 17 days before the election?
Again, what is your thesis? The Dossier was a VERY expensive project. What in your opinion was its purpose.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:48 pm to
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And why didn't they just come out and leak the bad stuff to the press instead. Game over.


What bad stuff did they find?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
29023 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:50 pm to
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What were they going to do with the FISA warrant 17 days before the election?

The same thing 90 days before or 90 days after. The wheels of the “insurance policy” were in motion. IMO the timing is almost irrelevant.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14287 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:51 pm to
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Kaveladze accompanied Agalarov.
V and A, favor or quid pro quo to Simpson.

No they don't just have to attend the meeting, they have to be in on it.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30189 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:53 pm to
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17 days before the election. What could they do with it before the election?


Who says they were going to use it before the election? After the virtually guaranteed Clinton victory they would see which Russians were supposedly working with Trump so they could leverage those Russians “disloyalty” to Clinton against them. Seems pretty fairly cut and dry if you aren’t an idiot.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:54 pm to
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No they don't just have to attend the meeting, they have to be in on it.


Why?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45848 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:54 pm to
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17 days before the election. What could they do with it before the election?


All that data is stored, they can go forward and backward, the date means nothing more than the justification to be accessing the data.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
29023 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:56 pm to
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quote: Kaveladze accompanied Agalarov. V and A, favor or quid pro quo to Simpson.

No they don't just have to attend the meeting, they have to be in on it.

What?
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